Biked outdoors today - solo - which is usual for me. Saw lots and lots of groups out there (Tampa, FL). Looked like business as usual.

US and Canada currently have the same growth rate as Italy. Despite Italy's recent lockdown it hasn't slowed the growth yet. It won't be long before the US and Canada have similar per capita rates as Europe.

Korea figured out how to slow the growth with plenty of testing and publicly sharing the GPS location of infected individuals. It's doubtful we would accept that level of privacy intrusion but it appears to have been very effective.

Medical professional here dealing with this virus daily now..............a few rules of thumb

1. Outdoor training is better than indoor training (assuming your not alone inside). This bug like other virus's doesn't do well outside and as temperature and humidity goes up in the spring and summer virus's die out. They can't take that kind of environment.

2. So far......and I stress "so far"........this bug is droplet spread meaning person to person contact is needed through some kind of droplet to a mucus membrane. You can't just get it by touching it with your skin. That's why hand washing is so effective. Meaning if you're outside and ride in a group, a smaller group is better, don't draft to avoid droplets (snot rockets) etc. Same goes with running and swimming is not an issue inside. Virus's can't survive in chlorine.

3. The "so far" part......one study has shown there is a "possibility" that this bug can be spread by aerosol. That makes this MUCH more contagious. That study is waiting on a peer review now so we will see if this is the case or not. IF this is the case someone could sneeze and it could linger in the air, you walk by, breath it in and now you have it.

4. WASH YOUR HANDS!!!!!!! soap and water is more effective than hand sanitizers. Remember you can't get this virus through your skin.

5. Long term effect is unknown....currently. There is another thread about permanent lung damage and some story linked to CNN. Don't believe what you see in the media because they don't know. The real scary part is if....and again its a big IF.....that this bug acts like chicken pox where the bug lives in a nerve for years and you get it a second time like shingles. That would suck.

6. Toilet paper is not an effective defense for this virus.....don't go buying it all up.

CN has an article on the outdoor cycling ban in Italy and Spain: https://www.cyclingnews.com/...ian-riders-outdoors/

The "excuse" that bike riders crash and need hospitalization really annoys me.

This whole willful flaunting of common sense is so annoying. Trump has framed this as an "us vs. them" thing, as he does with everything, and thus his followers and other ignorant folks go out of their way to go against all the recommendations of every infections disease specialist everywhere, just to prove their point, whatever they think that point is.

I hope for your sake your MAMIL group doesn't all get and/or spread COVID to others, but I'm sure you're well on your way to doing so.

You have no idea what our situation is down here and the state of the virus, doctor. There are 5 cases of COVID-19 in Maricopa county as of this morning. There are ~4,500,000 people in Maricopa county. Infection rate is 0.0000011

Did you practice 'social distancing' back in 2010 when the H1N1 virus affected 60 million Americans, hospitalized 300,000 and killed almost 14,000 (including 1800 children)? Stop all your group rides? Our president at the time ignored the situation from the beginning in April 2009 to October 2009 (when he finally declared an emergency).

Either save your sanctimony or share it evenly. Oh, and support the fight against run-on sentences.

You're gonna look back on this post in a couple weeks and be embarrassed. Even if you aren't showing signs you could still have the virus and spread it. I absolutely guarantee there are way more than 5 cases. We haven't even begun testing for this yet. These numbers are going to grow like crazy.

Your math implies all 4,500,000 million residents were tested. I'm guessing that really isn't the case.

a whopping 200 tests in all AZ(Edit - public labs, private test count not available) as of this morning (12 positive, 63 pending, 125 ruled out)

https://azdhs.gov/...vel-coronavirus-home

Here in Denmark I haven't seen groups of more than two cyclists since Friday. In general a lot of the public here are staying home as much as possible.

Our normally heavy trafficked high ways are almost empty and the same for the roads on the country side.

I was out for four hours on my bike mid day yesterday on both big and small country roads, and i probably only met a maximum om 15 cars or so.

The local cycling and tri clubs are also showing a lot of responsibility and have cancelled all group training for a minimum of two weeks.

It's kinda weird to experience, but theres absolutely no doubt that this situation requires "weird" changes for at least some time.

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Found the hardcore trumper. I guess since you're going to bring out H1N1 as a reason you're ok flaunting good science, you're ok with another H1N1 or worse? It sure sounds like it. Maybe instead of living your life to spite Obama, you can do better. Because right now, you're not and you sound like an idiot.

Judging from the number of people I saw riding solo and in groups in Tucson today, if anything there are more people out riding.
Rode 41 on and out n back. There was never enough time to take a pee break where someone didn't ride by.
It was more crowded on The Loop than a Saturday or Sunday

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You make my point better than I could have myself. Bravo!

Thank you for this! I’ll follow whatever rules are put in place but since where I live there aren’t many at the moment, I’d like to make make the most informed decisions I can to limit regrets 🤙🏽

It's amazing to me that, even here and now, you have to explain that to an adult

Selfishness and entitlement will never go out of style I guess

Apples and oranges to the H1N1. This comparison is getting old and stupider every time someone brings it up to try to rip Obama.

When this current pandemic has passed can we compare. But it’s idiotic to compare numbers from a pandemic that ran its course to one in its infancy. Every day the numbers grow for infected and killed for COVID-19.

Secondly, by all accounts COVID-19 is much more deadly than H1N1. If 60M in the US get infected and there’s a mortality rate of 2%, that’s 1.2M dead. Magnitudes higher than the 14k of H1N1.

never did group rides much, but our Thur night run club has moved to Strava..

rode a local trail yesterday, it looked like a weekend day up there, lots of singles and couples out walking running and biking, but no larger groups..