Login required to started new threads

Login required to post replies

Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack
Quote | Reply
 Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack

10 minutes ago

The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had a "minor heart attack," a hospital official said Tuesday.

Peter Banko, the hospital administrator at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial, said Harry Whittington had the heart attack early Tuesday while being evaluated.

He said there was an irregularity in the heartbeat caused by a birdshot pellet, and doctors performed a cardiac catheterization. Whittington expressed a desire to leave the hospital, but Banko said he would probably stay for another week.

Whittington, a prominent Republican attorney from Austin, was accidentally sprayed with shotgun pellets when Cheney was aiming for a quail Saturday.

Whittington had initially been placed in intensive care. He had been moved to a "step-down unit" Monday after doctors decided to leave several birdshot pellets lodged in his skin rather than try to remove them.

A Texas Parks and Wildlife Department report said Whittington was retrieving a downed bird and stepped out of the hunting line he was sharing with Cheney. "Another covey was flushed and Cheney swung on a bird and fired, striking Whittington in the face, neck and chest at approximately 30 yards," the report said.

The wildlife department issued a report Monday that found the main factor contributing to the accident was a "hunter's judgment factor." No other secondary factors were found to have played a role.
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [rundhc] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Ok...so what's your point in posting this?

It's a terrible accident and Cheney is at fault.

Care to add anything else?
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
It's news. CNN is reporting it so why shouldn't ST.
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [rundhc] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
One would think that the VP's office would have some comment, if for no other reason to say that Cheney regrets the accident and has said sorry, etc. But nope, just radio silence. Even Bush has said he was sorry for things, but Dick, why bother?

Can we start making "shot through the heart" jokes now?


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" - Benjamin Franklin
"Don't you see the rest of the country looks upon New York like we're left-wing, communist, Jewish, homosexual pornographers? I think of us that way sometimes and I live here." - Alvy Singer, "Annie Hall"
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
It's a new development in something that we have been talking about. Are new facts not allowed?
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [trio_jeepy] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
So somehow the "silence" from Cheney's office means isn't regretful or concerned about the accident?

What insight do you have on the state of Cheney's feelings on this issue?
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
In Reply To:
Ok...so what's your point in posting this?

It's a terrible accident and Cheney is at fault.

Care to add anything else?
Nothing to see here folks....move along. Vice Presidents shoot people every day...its not like he got a blowjob or anything!

----------------------------------------------------------
"A society is defined not only by what it creates, but by what it refuses to destroy."
John Sawhill
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [MattinSF] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Not saying that it's not newsworthy. It appears to be an accident and it appears that Cheney made a critical error when it comes to hunting.

But to sit and dwell on an issue simply for partisanship and to prey upon a very critical mistake shows a lack of compassion for the guy who got shot.

Why not dwell and hope for the poor guys recovery?
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
But to sit and dwell on an issue simply for partisanship and to prey upon a very critical mistake shows a lack of compassion for the guy.

A few names come to mind where others have dwelt on other critical mistakes.

Ted Kennedy

Bill Clinton

The Democrats would cry "enough is enough let's dwell on other things" out of respect for the "victims" and the Republicans continued, and continue, to politicize the events. It's nothing new. With Cheney, the Republicans want to move on under the guise of "concern for the guy who got shot" but really it is more about leaving Cheney alone.

Politics works both ways.

__________________________________________________

You sir, are my new hero! - Trifan 11/13/2008

Casey, you are a wise man - blueraider_mike 11/13/2008

Casey, This is an astute observation. - Slowbern 11/17/2008
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Were you equally critical of all those people dwelling on the blowjob non story? Were so so understanding when President Clinton "made a critical error" of judgement? I think not.

During the last campaign, Cheney made fun of John Kerry's hunting abilities....sauce for the goose is orange glaze for the quail.

keep the jokes coming.

You know Cheney can't be that bad of a shot....to hit a lawyer in the heart you gotta have some talent!

----------------------------------------------------------
"A society is defined not only by what it creates, but by what it refuses to destroy."
John Sawhill
Last edited by: MattinSF: Feb 14, 06 12:13
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [rundhc] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply

Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Maybe if the VP's office had just been up front and told us that the guy was in critical condition from the start, we wouldn't have to figure it out days later. And it doesn't help that they are trying to spin it like this guy was at fault.
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Wolfwood] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Hmmmm. 18 hours is somehow equal to days?

And I thought there was nothing but silence from the VP. Where's the spin?
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [stl_triness] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
So days is not accurate, but considering that there is staff of people dedicated to supplying the press with information, 18 hours is an eternity.

Silence from VP yes. Silence from VP's office no.
Last edited by: Wolfwood: Feb 14, 06 12:36
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
my issue is that Cheney's office seems to be spinning it so as to make it seem like it was the other guys fault. when you are the shooter, you are responsible for making sure that the area you are shooting in is clear. i've never heard of "announcing" yourself while shooting. the fact that his office is saying this man walked up and failed to announce himself is crap. cheney should have been looking out to see where he was shooting. he should not try to blame the guy who got shot, but instead should stand up and say that he made a big mistake
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [tri2tri] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
my issue is that Cheney's office seems to be spinning it so as to make it seem like it was the other guys fault.

Wait a minute...I thought Cheney's office was being quiet on the issue? Which is it?

when you are the shooter, you are responsible for making sure that the area you are shooting in is clear.

Agreed.

cheney should have been looking out to see where he was shooting.

Agreed.

he should not try to blame the guy who got shot, but instead should stand up and say that he made a big mistake


To my knowledge he has no comment on the issue. Is that to say he isn't owning up to the mistake? The authorities have coined it a mistake.
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
From what I understand, Cheney has not made a statement, but his office has said that the guy who got shot walked up unannounced and thus it seems as though it is his fault. I don't know, but everytime I go out hunting, especially on private farms, you know who is in your hunting party and where people are so as to not shoot anyone. Just my two cents. The whole situation is awful and I just hope the guy pulls through ok and wish him the best.
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Wolfwood] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
We're quibbling, and to be honest I don't really care one way or the other about this. Everything that happens in Washington gets blown out of proportion and this is no exception. I saw a chart at Ted Nugents message board (now there's a forum!) showing that hunting is a much safer sport than football, baseball, cycling or boating (by number of injuries as a percent of participation).

But for the hell of it, is it the job of the staff to provide the press with stories to report or is it the job of the press to go out and report on stories?
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [Brian286] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
Once again, Cheney himself has been quiet. The President's and VP's press secretaries have made statements and answered questions.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan:

"protocol was not followed by Mr. Whittington when it came to notifying others that he was there. And so, you know, unfortunately, these types of hunting accidents happen from time to time"
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [stl_triness] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
"But for the hell of it, is it the job of the staff to provide the press with stories to report or is it the job of the press to go out and report on stories? "

Both.
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [rundhc] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
In Reply To:
Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack

10 minutes ago


Oh GREAT -- Now you ruined my watching the evening news -- Thanks a lot.

You must be a real asshole for ruining my watching the evening news - even though I know nothing about you and you could not possibly know that my favorite thing to do is watch the evening news - you should be able to read my mind and since you can't - you are an asshole.

You should know to write spoiler in your title - and even though you didn't know - you should have known but you are to lazy to write "Spoiler" the title.
Quote Reply
Re: Rut-ro! Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack [rundhc] [ In reply to ]
Quote | Reply
it's such bullshit this happened. i would be livid if that was my father who got shot.

i feel so sorry for the man who was shot, and also his family. it's a terrible situation.
Last edited by: kittycat: Feb 15, 06 7:13
Quote Reply