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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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It also allows Nike to mute the "unfair advantage" angle, since they can say they offered them to everyone for free (hypothetical level playing field).

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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [Grantbot21] [ In reply to ]
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So, how many people are there at trials? Sounds like an insane amount of shoes given away?
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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [realbdeal] [ In reply to ]
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Saw a pair (women size 7, from the trials) listed on eBay for $1499 - don’t know if someone will actually pay this buts still this is so crazy

edit: here is the link (while they're still online haha) https://www.ebay.com/...c:g:FJoAAOSwQKteWINg

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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [monty] [ In reply to ]
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The irony.....if you can’t recall the company it wasn’t necessarily that worth it for them😂.
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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [lassekk] [ In reply to ]
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lassekk wrote:
So, how many people are there at trials? Sounds like an insane amount of shoes given away?

Around 700. It’s really not when you consider how many shoes Nike makes a year. I have no idea how Nike does production of their shoes because they have more styles and colors than any other company.
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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [Grantbot21] [ In reply to ]
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The cost of handing out ~700 shoes is pennies for Nike in the grand scheme of things - maybe $200,000 or so, but that's pretty good publicity and is definitely getting a lot of 'free' marketing if you consider social media and regular media coverage of it.

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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [natethomas] [ In reply to ]
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My guess is even less than that. I doubt they cost more than 100 to make the cost is all in the design.

It’s just remarkable the number of styles Nike puts out.
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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [Grantbot21] [ In reply to ]
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I doubt they cost more than 100 to make


Some years ago I was involved in bringing a product in from China (very small involvement). What I learned was that the average cost of products on the dock in China was 1/5th the retail value. Considering the control that Nike has over their production and product, I would guess that their pre shipment cost is even lower as a percentage. So if it's a $300 shoe (no idea what they will cost guess) then it's more like less than $60. plus shipping and handling. PR value....priceless.
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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [michael Hatch] [ In reply to ]
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The alpha fly's they are getting is to meet new regulations, so it won't be much different from vaporfly fly. Anyways, speaking about Des linden with Brooks, they have their own carbon copy version of vaporfly as does hoka for Jim whamsley
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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [Grantbot21] [ In reply to ]
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I didn’t count all the male profiles but last I counted there were 500+ females alone.
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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [Grantbot21] [ In reply to ]
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Grantbot21 wrote:
My guess is even less than that. I doubt they cost more than 100 to make the cost is all in the design.

It’s just remarkable the number of styles Nike puts out.

Yeah - I guess I was considering 'market' cost, but obviously substantially less to manufacture. R&D costs factored in too.

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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [Grantbot21] [ In reply to ]
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was talking to an Asics rep yesterday, he said this is probably from the requirements of the new ruling - a certain number/percentage of the shoes have to be available to the general public, for the shoe to be legal. This is just a way to push out a few more pairs to the public. They will be doing the same thing with the new Asics carbon-plate shoe over the next few months.

tough choice for shoe-sponsored athletes with a shot at the team..
further down the field, hell yeah I'm taking those shoes ;-)
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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [natethomas] [ In reply to ]
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natethomas wrote:
Grantbot21 wrote:
My guess is even less than that. I doubt they cost more than 100 to make the cost is all in the design.

It’s just remarkable the number of styles Nike puts out.

Yeah - I guess I was considering 'market' cost, but obviously substantially less to manufacture. R&D costs factored in too.

Yeah, but given that these shoes typically sell out, you really need to consider Nike's margin on the shoes as well when calculating Nike's true cost. Really their cost to supply these shoes at trials is the # of shoes x wholesale price.

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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [doug in co] [ In reply to ]
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That’s not right from what I can tell.

https://www.worldathletics.org/...modified-rules-shoes

The shoe needs to be available to the public for 4 months prior to competition but that is after April 30th. But that is also for international competitions so I don’t think it would apply here anyways.
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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [Grantbot21] [ In reply to ]
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There are definitely a lot of Alphaflys around the race hotel but it might not be the best option for this course. Someone I work with, who is very well versed in running shoe technology, has been measuring stack heights of all the shoes for the past two days. He has mentioned the softness and shape of the heel could be a disadvantage on the downhills..."there will be a lot of foot slapping." You'll certainly see a lot of Alphaflys but I think a most runners will wear what got them there.

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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [Grantbot21] [ In reply to ]
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Grantbot21 wrote:
That’s not right from what I can tell.

https://www.worldathletics.org/...modified-rules-shoes

The shoe needs to be available to the public for 4 months prior to competition but that is after April 30th. But that is also for international competitions so I don’t think it would apply here anyways.

Genuine noob question: Wouldn't the USATF automatically adopt all IAAF rules or does there need to be a formal adoption process?

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Re: You get an Alphafly... You get an Alphafly... at least if you’re running the US Trials. [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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desert dude wrote:
At least one professional runner ended a cash paying contract <24 days ago with [redacted] & bought a pair of Next % bc the company doesn't have a shoe.

Guess they could have saved $250.


How much does a pro runner make?
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