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Re: How you view food as an athlete [cloy] [ In reply to ]
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cloy wrote:
Vols wrote:
cloy wrote:
So, since everyone is using this new lingo (and not specifically to you):

What is "Plant Based?"

Is it just another way of saying "flexitarian" or "reduce-itarian?" or part-time vegetarian?


It's basically the trendy new way of saying eating like you're supposed to - mostly unprocessed food from the ground or a tree, with the occasional lean meat.

I'm so excited the way I've eaten all along now has a name!

So... pretentious omnivore? It has all the social superiority of what only claiming vegan used to have, but none of the sacrifice!

I can have my [plant based] cake and eat it, too.

Call it what you want, but we all have choices of what constitutes a healthy diet. Your choice will not be everyone else's choice. Why act so elitist and condescending towards others? I tried vegan and it didn't work for me. On the other hand if someone feels that's best for them I say go for it. It doesn't affect me one way or another, so there is no point wasting energy on it.

My grandmother is 95 and a vegetarian. She always prepared meat for family meals. We never once judged her and she gave us equal respect. There is no secret diet. Just find what works for you and be willing to be flexible.
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Re: How you view food as an athlete [cloy] [ In reply to ]
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I view food as nothing more than a necessary evil to sustain life. I hate to cook anything, it creates more of a mess than it's worth. Microwaving is barely palatable and eating out is expensive and not very healthy. So I usually skip dinners, it's too much of a headache and I eat breakfast and a lot of juicing.
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Re: How you view food as an athlete [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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Disordered and I work with a specialist to make it normal. Seriously. I spent 20 years where swimming was my life up to a professional level and then transitioned to the triathlon side. I developed eating disorders as a young man and never talked about it. It culminated with some seriously disordered eating and sickness. I love food and treat myself now. Specialists and a shrink keep me healthy.

Are you saying you were an anorexic swimmer??? I thought most swimmers were on the "I'll eat anything" diet to the tune of 6000-8000 cal/day???


"Anyone can be who they want to be IF they have the HUNGER and the DRIVE."
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Re: How you view food as an athlete [cloy] [ In reply to ]
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I'm really interested in hearing from the pro/FOPers... I vaguely remember reading stories of pros who absolutely crushed training but would go out and crush a few beers and a pizza and think nothing of it.

Just remember that pros also put in consistent work for 20+ hours a week and probably burn more calories than any of us. When I was in college, we swam/lifted/trained 20 hours per week, every week from August to March. From March-May about 15, and in the summers I would periodize 10-20 hours per week.

I hear interviews with pros saying how a big week is 25, I don't know how we managed that volume while doing everything else...classes, jobs, walking in the cold from class to class without getting sick.

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Re: How you view food as an athlete [indianacyclist] [ In reply to ]
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to the other end of the spectrum where I get off the trainer and down a piece of pizza of two.


If you think a couple pieces of Pizza is the opposite end of the spectrum, you have not lived lol. I'm talking a full pizza and a half gallon of ice cream while polishing off a six pack of IPAs. That's closer to the other end of the spectrum and something I've done more than I'm proud to admit.

When you're training 15hrs+ per week, it's hard to fuel that on Kale and Arugula. Cody Beals wrote on awesome blog on striving for a B+ diet and that's pretty much my take as well. I don't over analyze. I don't count calories. I try to eat as many veggies, real food, and lean proteins as possible. But I also have plenty of wings, pizza, chips, fries, cookies, etc. to make up the rest of my caloric needs.

Also used to have a few beers per night basically every night. Cutting that back has been a massive performance benefit over the last ~45 days. For context, FOPer (Top 1% Bike/Run + haven't drown on a swim yet)

been there after 100+ mile rides, more than once.

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Re: How you view food as an athlete [ericmulk] [ In reply to ]
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Disordered and I work with a specialist to make it normal. Seriously. I spent 20 years where swimming was my life up to a professional level and then transitioned to the triathlon side. I developed eating disorders as a young man and never talked about it. It culminated with some seriously disordered eating and sickness. I love food and treat myself now. Specialists and a shrink keep me healthy.

Are you saying you were an anorexic swimmer??? I thought most swimmers were on the "I'll eat anything" diet to the tune of 6000-8000 cal/day???

1) disordered doesn't necessarily mean anorexic. that's just one of many eating disorders.

2) yes, there are lots of swimmers who develop eating disorders. Much more common on the women's side, but it happens to the men too. There's a case going on right now about the Danish swimming federation, where a couple of the former national team coaches used to do public weigh ins with the swimmers. head of Danish swimming resigned. That's not an isolated case. I swam with several girls who, I suspect, had eating disorders when I was a kid. Unfortunately, I was just a teenager then and didn't know how serious it could be, so I didn't try to help.

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Re: How you view food as an athlete [cloy] [ In reply to ]
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I don't view food "as an athlete" anymore, it's just food to me.

Back in my days when I was more serious about athletics, food was a means to "not be hungry". 15-20 hours per week in the water plus dryland and a high metabolism meant a lot of calories burned.

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