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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [craigj532] [ In reply to ]
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Additional PSA - a fair # of sizes available on RunningWarehouse.com
https://www.runningwarehouse.com/...descpage-NANMS1.html
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [craigj532] [ In reply to ]
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Alphafly “Kipchoge” now available for Nike members:

https://www.nike.com/...11eb8142005d0a1c0e0d
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [craigj532] [ In reply to ]
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craigj532 wrote:
Alphafly “Kipchoge” now available for Nike members:

https://www.nike.com/...11eb8142005d0a1c0e0d

Now available for everyone and it seems now to be quite a wide release. I think I got a notification on Friday and there are still sizes available now.

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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [hadukla] [ In reply to ]
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I'm changing my opinion about the Alphafly. I ran 10 miles in them today and they were terrific, had a lot more spring to them then the Next % although I didn't feel that my initial run.

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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [Bryancd] [ In reply to ]
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I have just gotten hold of a pair and had only 1 12 k run in them so far, but I really have to say wow.

Either the placebo is just AMAZING, or they are actually FAST, comfy and brilliant shoes to run in. I can easily imagine running 42km easy (ok, getting abit carried away here, but) in these.

They have a combination of cushion and «springy» I have never felt before.

Should be noted I have never tried the vaporfly (this is first pair of nike «supershoes» I have gotten a hold of). But these were - at least first run - next level for me. I did try next % Tempos, wihch also have been fast for me. But the tempos felt way more clunky, and didnt have the same soft ride as alphafly.
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [lovegoat] [ In reply to ]
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lovegoat wrote:
Should be noted I have never tried the vaporfly (this is first pair of nike «supershoes» I have gotten a hold of). But these were - at least first run - next level for me. I did try next % Tempos, wihch also have been fast for me. But the tempos felt way more clunky, and didnt have the same soft ride as alphafly.

Next% is faster than Vaporfly, so you are not missing anything. I ran 1 mile with Vaporfly and another 1 mile with Next% yesterday and Next% was faster.
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [s13tx] [ In reply to ]
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s13tx wrote:
lovegoat wrote:
Should be noted I have never tried the vaporfly (this is first pair of nike «supershoes» I have gotten a hold of). But these were - at least first run - next level for me. I did try next % Tempos, wihch also have been fast for me. But the tempos felt way more clunky, and didnt have the same soft ride as alphafly.

Next% is faster than Vaporfly, so you are not missing anything. I ran 1 mile with Vaporfly and another 1 mile with Next% yesterday and Next% was faster.
Aren’t they both Next%???
One the Vaporfly Next% and the other Alphafly Next%

Cheers, Ray
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [TX83] [ In reply to ]
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TX83 wrote:
s13tx wrote:
lovegoat wrote:
Should be noted I have never tried the vaporfly (this is first pair of nike «supershoes» I have gotten a hold of). But these were - at least first run - next level for me. I did try next % Tempos, wihch also have been fast for me. But the tempos felt way more clunky, and didnt have the same soft ride as alphafly.


Next% is faster than Vaporfly, so you are not missing anything. I ran 1 mile with Vaporfly and another 1 mile with Next% yesterday and Next% was faster.

Aren’t they both Next%???
One the Vaporfly Next% and the other Alphafly Next%

Yea you are right. If I have gotten it correctly you had first:

1. Nike Vaporfly 4% 1. gen. (I think there was also a second gen of this with a different upper or smth?).
2. Nike Next % Vaporfly (commonly just referred to "Nike Next" or "Next %).
3. Nike Next % Alphafly (with this release nike also released the Nike Next % Tempo - so nowadays just referring to a shoe by stating "Nike Next" can be somewhat confusing :)
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [lovegoat] [ In reply to ]
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Nike heading into Skechers territory with their nomenclature...

Haven't run in the Alphafly yet but agree with others about how nice the upper/fit is.
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [lovegoat] [ In reply to ]
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I am a big next% fan and did a 8x800 with 4 in the next and 4 in the alphas. Both paces and Hrs were very similar. Felt that nexts were snappier although the cushioning on the alphas was wow. Kind of like when the gen1 vapor fly came and it was so different than anything else. Its been interesting with how the pros have their choice and seeing how different people think of them. I feel like they used to be thought of as marathon only and now Vincent Luis and top ITU guys are going with them for 5ks busting out fast times. Galen Rupp just did his half marathon in them setting the 10 mile record. Then you some of the major marathons where the Next percents were heavily favored. For me id say 5k 10k next and id probably reach alpha for half although a toss up. and marathon alpha no doubt. Running with them in Florida this Saturday so well see how they do...although never ran a good marathon ironman time as it is so not much to compare LOL!!!

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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [cxrider] [ In reply to ]
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Mines scrunch
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [longtrousers] [ In reply to ]
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As a PSA for Denver people.The Lakewood Runners Roost has AlphaFlys in stock in almost all sizes. I picked up a pair of the Watermelon yesterday. Hope to go for a wasteful tempo run this PM. The salesman almost didn’t let me get them - apparently they are only supposed to sell to people with IM tattoos or can prove membership to a cross fit box. I was able to show him a slideshow of my endurance career on my phone and he eventually relented. They were $294 after tax....
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [Mike Sharkey] [ In reply to ]
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We didn't get (to see) much IM racing since the launch of the Alphafly but interesting to see that most pros in Nike at IM Florida were wearing the Vaporfly Next%. Curious to understand why as my experience with both shoes would push me towards the Alphafly for an IM marathon where the extra bounce may prove useful for post-bike legs...
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [Belgian_Waffle] [ In reply to ]
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They are not as quick to get on as the Next %’s or Vfly’s (pre-next)
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [bluesmachine] [ In reply to ]
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bluesmachine wrote:
They are not as quick to get on as the Next %’s or Vfly’s (pre-next)

I don't buy that for second. If the AF Next% is a better shoe than the VF Next% but takes a few seconds longer to get on, there isn't a pro on this planet that would sacrifice their speed and comfort over a couple extra seconds in T2. There is something definitely going on in the pro world, either data or their psyche or both, that is keeping them from picking the AF over the VF.

Cheers, Ray
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [Belgian_Waffle] [ In reply to ]
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Belgian_Waffle wrote:
We didn't get (to see) much IM racing since the launch of the Alphafly but interesting to see that most pros in Nike at IM Florida were wearing the Vaporfly Next%. Curious to understand why as my experience with both shoes would push me towards the Alphafly for an IM marathon where the extra bounce may prove useful for post-bike legs...

Who wants bounce in a marathon?
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [TX83] [ In reply to ]
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TX83 wrote:
There is something definitely going on in the pro world, either data or their psyche or both, that is keeping them from picking the AF over the VF.

Or dollars. Maybe they've already 'invested' $250-300 of their own funds in the VF and don't feel that the RoI is significant enough to warrant spending another $300 on shoes. I'm only speaking theoretically of course, but I figure most pros don't have unlimited funds to spend on equipment. No doubt the RoI was there when they switched from <whatever they were using> to the VF, but who really knows how much faster the same person would be in the AF over the VF? Personally, I'm a huge fan and believer in the VFs - and that shoe precipitated my switch to Nike exclusively for racing and training (ZF3 and VF FK). I'm just not sure I really *need* the AF.
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [A527G] [ In reply to ]
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A527G wrote:
TX83 wrote:
There is something definitely going on in the pro world, either data or their psyche or both, that is keeping them from picking the AF over the VF.


Or dollars. Maybe they've already 'invested' $250-300 of their own funds in the VF and don't feel that the RoI is significant enough to warrant spending another $300 on shoes.
. Possibly, but if the AF was far superior to the VF, then I would think that a pro would easily spend $300 on a set a race shoes that could significantly impact their time and potentially their prize earnings.

Cheers, Ray
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [TX83] [ In reply to ]
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TX83 wrote:
bluesmachine wrote:
They are not as quick to get on as the Next %’s or Vfly’s (pre-next)


I don't buy that for second. If the AF Next% is a better shoe than the VF Next% but takes a few seconds longer to get on, there isn't a pro on this planet that would sacrifice their speed and comfort over a couple extra seconds in T2. There is something definitely going on in the pro world, either data or their psyche or both, that is keeping them from picking the AF over the VF.

The beauty of all this, is I don't know how we will ever know. There can be lab tests, or back to back 1-mile runs down the street, similar back to back track workouts. Then debates about the merits of those "tests" people have done. Cite recent race results, or even look at how in the women in pro running are using different shoes than the men all together (seems like the women are wearing adidas more than Nike).

When Jared Ward wrote a blog after testing numerous version of the Endorphin Pro for Saucony, he summed it up nicely. (paraphrased). "Wear shoes that feel good, which will build your confidence on race day". Whatever shoe that may be.
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [phoenixR34] [ In reply to ]
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phoenixR34 wrote:
"Wear shoes that feel good, which will build your confidence on race day". Whatever shoe that may be.
This.
And it "usually" translates to better times when your confidence is at that level you need it to be.

Cheers, Ray
Last edited by: TX83: Nov 13, 20 12:44
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Re: The Nike Air Zoom Alphafly NEXT% is officially announced [cxrider] [ In reply to ]
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First run in new Alphaflys - 15mi on mostly level asphalt. Nothing new to add to the conversation: very cushy and noticeably less fatigue at the end of the set. But, I must have clipped my ankle 25 times with inner edge of the shoe on the other foot. No joke, it really started to smart the last few strikes and definitely gonna be good and bruised tomorrow. Worth it, I guess..
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