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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [scorpio516] [ In reply to ]
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scorpio516 wrote:
No one's asked the big question yet...

Your existing range is electric. Do you have gas heat already?

Getting a gas range will require an electrician (to remove the 220 from the kitchen) and a mechanical contractor (to run the new gas line from somewhere). That's not cheap.
Even if you buy a $8,000 induction range, it'll be cheaper than a gas range ;)

I love cooking with gas. How can you flambe without gas (yes, a torch, but what's the fun in that)... But I'd never install a gas range into a kitchen without gas there.

Now for convincing the husband, if he didn't get a chance to use it in Rome, a nice tabletop induction element is really cheap. https://www.amazon.com/...tertop/dp/B00GMCAM2G

https://thewirecutter.com/...e-induction-cooktop/ for reviews.
If you’re going from electric to gas, you just unplug the old stove... no need to remove the wall plug. If you are paranoid you can shut off the breaker at the electric panel.
Getting gas run costs only a couple of hours of labor if your utility runs are not buried behind walls. The cost for pipe, a shutoff valve and a flex pipe is fairly inconsequential.
We did this at our previous house and it was no big deal.

Less is more.
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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [scorpio516] [ In reply to ]
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scorpio516 wrote:
No one's asked the big question yet...

Your existing range is electric. Do you have gas heat already?

Getting a gas range will require an electrician (to remove the 220 from the kitchen) and a mechanical contractor (to run the new gas line from somewhere). That's not cheap.
Even if you buy a $8,000 induction range, it'll be cheaper than a gas range ;)

I love cooking with gas. How can you flambe without gas (yes, a torch, but what's the fun in that)... But I'd never install a gas range into a kitchen without gas there.

Now for convincing the husband, if he didn't get a chance to use it in Rome, a nice tabletop induction element is really cheap. https://www.amazon.com/...tertop/dp/B00GMCAM2G

https://thewirecutter.com/...e-induction-cooktop/ for reviews.

You don't need to remove the circuit at all. Just unplug it. Or, replace the plug with a blank cover plate.

Also, if you're remodeling a kitchen, an electrician and plumber/gas contractor are most likely already involved. Running a gas/electrical line *could* be an issue depending on kitchen location, but I wouldn't let that be a determining factor in getting what you want.

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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [H-] [ In reply to ]
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H- wrote:
I'm not sure that induction is much more efficient than gas. About 35% of electricity is produced by burning natural gas, so the efficiency of the generation and distribution system needs to be considered.

Not sure about overall efficiency, but even a cheap 120v counter top induction unit can dump an impressive amount of energy directly into the pot and get water boiling very fast. We have gas, but I have a cheap ($50) counter top unit that gets pulled out if I need an extra burner for letting something rip on.

The big thing to consider if you go induction is to check that your cookware is compatible. Most more recent stuff is, but that can be a nasty surprise if you're also replacing everything (or your favorites) once the range is in. Yes you can get the interface plates, but kind of defeats a bunch of the pros.
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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [cartsman] [ In reply to ]
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We have a high end induction top and it's awesome. I used to love gas, now I would never go back. Has the instant adjustability of gas, though because you can't see the flame it does take a little longer to figure out what number corresponds to the amount of heat you want. Has more heating power than gas. It's a more even heat then gas so you don't get hot spots. And it's much safer and waaaaay easier to clean.

I have also used induction tops when staying in rented places that are nowhere near as good as ours, either because they're cheaper units and/or don't have pans that work well with induction. I think that people who still prefer gas to induction have either only experienced a low end induction setup, or haven't spent enough time with it to get used to it.

I believe you could say the same thing about high end gas vs. low end gas stove top. I know there is certainly a difference. I would need a Thermador cooktop to match my gas top. As far as cleaning, if you have ever cleaned up a Thermador gas top, they are simple.
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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [travelgirl] [ In reply to ]
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travelgirl wrote:
That is a very pretty stove! But a bit pricier than I was going for!

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travelgirl wrote:
We are getting ready to do a house remodel (reconfigure kitchen to make more user friendly) add a second bathroom, reconfigure existing bathroom to be master bath) so we have to get new appliances for the kitchen. Existing range is electric, but I’m looking at induction cooktop/range. My husband wants gas, which I’m not opposed to, but we stayed at an Airbnb in Rome that had induction and I liked it. It doesn’t seem to be too common in the US, so any info as I start my research is greatly appreciated!

For passion and enjoyment, gas wins. For flat out power, I’d say gas (depending on the model of course).

Safety, cleanup, and ease of use, go with induction.

Nowww...

Check out the Thermador Freedom collection. If you want one of the best induction cooktops out there, this one is pretty nifty.

https://www.thermador.com/...ndrangetopsinduction

Plus they have issues, and getting repairs is expensive. I would avoid Thermador.

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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [scorpio516] [ In reply to ]
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scorpio516 wrote:
No one's asked the big question yet...

Your existing range is electric. Do you have gas heat already?

Getting a gas range will require an electrician (to remove the 220 from the kitchen) and a mechanical contractor (to run the new gas line from somewhere). That's not cheap.
Even if you buy a $8,000 induction range, it'll be cheaper than a gas range ;)

I love cooking with gas. How can you flambe without gas (yes, a torch, but what's the fun in that)... But I'd never install a gas range into a kitchen without gas there.

Now for convincing the husband, if he didn't get a chance to use it in Rome, a nice tabletop induction element is really cheap. https://www.amazon.com/...tertop/dp/B00GMCAM2G

https://thewirecutter.com/...e-induction-cooktop/ for reviews.[/quote

The tabletop units don't have the full power of cooktop (only use 110).

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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [ruby1] [ In reply to ]
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ruby1 wrote:
What are restaurants using? This should be a good indicator. We had coil, new house came with a high end gas and I am in love. Cleanup is super easy, perhaps since we have a well made stove.

More and more are switching to induction.. guess that's a pretty good indicator. Induction has been a standard in Europe for a long time, just slowly moving into the US.

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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [shoff14] [ In reply to ]
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shoff14 wrote:
I would need a Thermador cooktop to match my gas top. As far as cleaning, if you have ever cleaned up a Thermador gas top, they are simple.

Why what does the the Thermador induction cooktop have that other better induction cooktops don't have?

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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]
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DavHamm wrote:
shoff14 wrote:
I would need a Thermador cooktop to match my gas top. As far as cleaning, if you have ever cleaned up a Thermador gas top, they are simple.


Why what does the the Thermador induction cooktop have that other better induction cooktops don't have?


It would be my apples to apples comparison. I am sure there are other just as good gas tops or induction tops.

A $400 induction cook top (not sure they exist) isn't going to compare well to a 2-3k gas top. The same can be said in reverse.
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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [scorpio516] [ In reply to ]
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Why would you need to remove the electrical service to the kitchen if you get a gas stove?
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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [shoff14] [ In reply to ]
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shoff14 wrote:
DavHamm wrote:
shoff14 wrote:
I would need a Thermador cooktop to match my gas top. As far as cleaning, if you have ever cleaned up a Thermador gas top, they are simple.


Why what does the the Thermador induction cooktop have that other better induction cooktops don't have?



It would be my apples to apples comparison. I am sure there are other just as good gas tops or induction tops.

A $400 induction cook top (not sure they exist) isn't going to compare well to a 2-3k gas top. The same can be said in reverse.

Right but a high end cooktop is more in the $1500 - $2500 range. That Thermador is just a lot of money for the name. Typically a high end induction will have more heating power than a high end gas stove. Anyhow, you can tell I am pretty sold on Induction. And if you have kids Induction is really the way to go.

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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [travelgirl] [ In reply to ]
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Good video



Although this is more how I do it.


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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]
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Wow! That is cool! I’m going to head to the appliance store this week and start looking at induction ranges. Also refrigerators, microwave drawer, dishwasher.
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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]
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You are very passionate about induction!

I was skeptical at first a few years ago, especially after having cooked in restaurants as my kid/teenager career.

Induction wins hands down, cheeper, more precise control, less mess and more energy efficient.

We have a pretty simple white LG for 1200$cad and 5years in no issues.

Maurice
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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]
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DavHamm wrote:
Good video



Although this is more how I do it.

Or you could just cook your bacon in the oven like any sane person would do...

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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [H-] [ In reply to ]
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H- wrote:
I have gas. I am visiting my parents who have induction. I have a hard time getting used to induction. I suppose that with time I will learn and understand the heat settings. With gas I can just look at the flame and know how much heat is being applied.

I'm not sure that induction is much more efficient than gas. About 35% of electricity is produced by burning natural gas, so the efficiency of the generation and distribution system needs to be considered.

How often might your power go out? Nice to be able to cook on a gas stove when electricity is out.

After cooking steel cut oatmeal this morning, I'm getting used to induction. Meanwhile, my 85 year old mom who has asked me the same question a dozen times today seems to have no problem using it.

My only two objections now are (1) Europe does it, and (2) DavHamm likes it.

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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [H-] [ In reply to ]
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We cook steel cut oats in the InstantPot.
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Re: Induction, gas (or electric) cookers. Hit me up with some info [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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I’ve started doing my bacon in the microwave. Lazy. But if I splurge and get British bacon it’s broiler all the way.
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