satanellus wrote:
plant_based wrote:
RCCo wrote:
For instance - I want to run a 50 mile trail ultra. If i am also doing 8 hours a week of cycling does this alter the equation for running mileage? Can i get away with 30 mpw now or am i still going to be missing out on some specifically running adaptation or benefit? I have a tendency towards running injuries so want to err on the side of caution, but on the other hand: YOLO. (as my infuriating Millennial kids say)
I entered a 50mi ultra train run last year after not much run training. I did ok for about 35mi, then started to really slow down in the race. I got lost in the dark with little food or water and the light battery running dim and had to DNF in the cold at 47.6mi - so close......
I don't think you need to focus on having a specifically heavy run training period, so long as you focus on having your cardiovascular system being used to being active for 5-6hrs of effort.
If you're comfortable for being active for these long periods of time, a 50mi Ultra should be attainable.
How much of a running base did you have? Both in terms of years running and previous mileages?
It's much so easier to get through a 50 miler "relatively comfortably" on limited mileage if you have previously had significant miles in the bank, even if it's going back a few years. In those situations, prior race experience counts for a hell of a lot too, in relation to whole manner of things........pacing, race strategy, clothing, equipment, nutrition, navigation, general ultra running nous.
I'm not sure that I have much of a running base. But, I have always been a solid runner. I did HS XC for a couple years and College XC for a semester, but was never more than a 17:30-18:00min 5K runner if that. I skipped base training in college and just seem to wing it for most races. This was 2000-2001.
I didn't have any trail running experience and learned a good deal of navigation on the course, which wasn't difficult in the day, but proved difficult at night. I didn't think I was going to finish in the night and didn't prepare appropriately. I started to get the shivers at the end (the uncontrollable ones) and it was slightly scary. For the most part, the nutrition in the day was fine and it wasn't too hot so there was not a lot of loss of electrolytes. It was a pack your own aid station and I packed filled camelbaks on the aid stations with reeses and pretzels and pringles and stuff as well as gels. I didn't eat that much during this time - much less than expected.
I had quite a race experience and would highly recommend the 50mi distance. 100mi seems a bit much to me. I don't know if I'll ever attempt a 50mi again though - it was quite an effort.
https://www.strava.com/...tes/zachary_mckinney