devashish_paul wrote:
Murphy'sLaw wrote:
MrRabbit wrote:
Murphy'sLaw wrote:
fruit thief wrote:
DieselPete wrote:
Posts above that say it should be 4:1 or “you suck at something” are missing something. If a guy can bang out a 16:00 mile in the water are we to think he should run four straight 4:00 miles? (Obviously impossible)
That guy is a swimmer, not a triathlete.
How fast can Mo Farah swim 1500m?
Noone seems to be disputing that there are athletes out there who run 3 or 5 miles in the time it takes them to swim 1. Just that they won't be winning any triathlons.
And yet - I’m one of those people who is at the 5/1 ratio, and I have won numerous triathlons.
(Mostly sprints, but I also managed 3rd OA at SOS Cape Cod, and SOS events are basically swim/run races with a bike warmup.)
/channeling my inner WaterFunBoy -
I’ve also been USAT AA for 12 straight years.
(Pretty sure 2019 will make it 13)
So, you were saying?.....
Doesn't mean you aren't giving up a ton in the water. I've won some sprints/Olys and OA top 10s at IMs & 70.3s. My swim is weak and it keeps me from winning bigger races, yours does too by the sound of it.
And AA doesn't mean you are balanced and poised to do well against top end competition, I know from experience.
I am absolutely giving up a ton in the water.
And I never once claimed I was “balanced”.
My point was to disprove the blanket statement that “you can’t win a triathlon” if that swim/run ratio is that far out of whack.
Which I did.
Josh Beck is my spirit animal.
He has beaten many Pro triathletes at the IM & HIM distances, in spite of (somehow) being an even worse swimmer than I am.
I don't think you are at 5:1 unless we count your 1:39 Kona swim. You have done 35 min 1.2 mile swims which would be 28 min for 1 mile albeit with wetsuit. You would need to run five miles at 5:36 pace which I am not sure you can do
OK, so maybe 5:1 is a slight stretch, or maybe it isn't.
But as you mentioned, those "fast" swims I did were in a wetsuit, and the other BIG thing is - on good feet the majority of the way.
There is NFW I can swim that fast solo, sans wettie.
The running equivalent would be a net-downhill course with a tailwind the whole way.
I did an OW swim this summer (actually did a bunch of them) and swam what they call 1.1 miles in 35 minutes as my au-naturel PB.
(I believe it's really closer to 1 mile flat, rather than the claimed 1.1m, and my GPS typically confirmed that distance, but that's splitting hairs)
https://www.strava.com/activities/2489486341 Here's the same swim, this one was with small hand paddles (cheater!!)
https://www.strava.com/activities/2514306897 vs.
Anyway, based on that current ~1m swim time, vs running -
you can be sure I can still bang out 5M in well under 35 mins:
https://www.strava.com/activities/2286665378
float ,
hammer , and
jog