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I've been riding on tubeless Schwalbes for over a year now. Love them. I got them primarily because they are supposed to be more resistant to flats. But it begs the question of what happens if they do get a puncture in a race. What is the quickest short term fix? Is it a patch with a CO2 canister? Any recommendations on kits or techniques are welcome.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [Celerius] [ In reply to ]
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Tube + boot (depending on the size of the puncture) + CO2 is probably the fastest if your sealant didn't work. Could try something like Vittoria Pit-Stop, but not sure how effective that'd be if the sealant already in the tire didn't take hold.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [andrewjshults] [ In reply to ]
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In mountain biking where Tubeless is far more established, the current 'thinking' for when you get a hole in the tyre that the sealant doesnt plug, is to use a little forked tool with what is often referred to as an 'anchovy' pushed in from the outside to plug the hole (so no need to break the bead seal) then re-gas with CO2.

https://www.google.com/...LxGVSbTJhsqquGwV2Gt3

Go to about 2mins in to see what I mean.


Dynaplug make some very tidy little versions of these too.
https://www.google.com/...U33tDJtTAshup0zSkWdp
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Re: Tubeless Flat [BobAjobb] [ In reply to ]
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BobAjobb wrote:
In mountain biking where Tubeless is far more established, the current 'thinking' for when you get a hole in the tyre that the sealant doesnt plug, is to use a little forked tool with what is often referred to as an 'anchovy' pushed in from the outside to plug the hole (so no need to break the bead seal) then re-gas with CO2.

https://www.google.com/...LxGVSbTJhsqquGwV2Gt3

Go to about 2mins in to see what I mean.


Dynaplug make some very tidy little versions of these too.
https://www.google.com/...U33tDJtTAshup0zSkWdp

This right here. Carry a Dynaplug when racing and you can skip the tube.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [Geek_fit] [ In reply to ]
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A Dynaplug is the way to go. Repair is pretty fast. The time lost may keep you off the podium, if you are racing for a spot, but you can continue on with minimal time lost. Its a lot faster than putting in a tube.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [thomtwg] [ In reply to ]
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Most of their videos are for MTB, I wonder how effective the Dynaplug is for road tubeless where the puncture is typically smaller and the tire may have less sealant in it. I am tempted to buy a kit, which one do you guys get that's good for road riding?
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Re: Tubeless Flat [dalava] [ In reply to ]
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The pointed Dynaplug work quite well. There are a few videos videos from Dynaplug on You Tube that show repair of a road tubeless tire. I carry a small covered razor blade to trim the plug to the road tire level so there is no thumping from the plug. Flats happen infrequently, but the Dynaplug and a couple of CO2 fix it right up.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [dalava] [ In reply to ]
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dalava wrote:
Most of their videos are for MTB, I wonder how effective the Dynaplug is for road tubeless where the puncture is typically smaller and the tire may have less sealant in it. I am tempted to buy a kit, which one do you guys get that's good for road riding?

We're using the Dynaplug micro kit. It comes in a small screw together aluminum capsule. One half functions for inserting plugs and the other holds extra plugs and tools. It includes a small knife blade for opening up a small puncture and cutting off the plug after insertion.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [dalava] [ In reply to ]
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I've used Dynaplug several times with 100% success rate. In my experience it is generally a longterm fix, but before races I will switch out tires with plugs just to be on the safe side.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [SummitAK] [ In reply to ]
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"We're using the Dynaplug micro kit"
Definitely looks like a well designed and made tool, but.............DAMN...... $60 to fix a flat?
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Re: Tubeless Flat [trimule] [ In reply to ]
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trimule wrote:
"We're using the Dynaplug micro kit"
DAMN...... $60 to fix a flat?
Make that to fix "five" flats.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [RichardL] [ In reply to ]
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I understand what you're saying, but the advertised price of the tool and supplies is $54.95 + s/h.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [trimule] [ In reply to ]
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It's a bit counterintuitive to say "60$ to fix a flat". You can literally keep the tool and you'll just have to buy spare tips going forward, and these are like 2$ each.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [trimule] [ In reply to ]
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trimule wrote:
I understand what you're saying, but the advertised price of the tool and supplies is $54.95 + s/h.
It's a reusable tool, just like a CO2 inflator, floor pump, or wheel truing stand. You have it forever and use it countless times.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [trimule] [ In reply to ]
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trimule wrote:
"We're using the Dynaplug micro kit"
Definitely looks like a well designed and made tool, but.............DAMN...... $60 to fix a flat?


Yeah, there are kits out there that are equally as effective (if not more so, with the ability to insert multiple plug strips if needed) for much less money. For example, here's a newer kit from Genuine Innovations that's only $15:

https://www.amazon.com/...aps%2C213&sr=8-1



The replacement "bacon strips" are also very inexpensive...or, you can go even less expensive by merely buying a lifetime supply of cotton butcher's cord (i.e. a single roll) and using those with the tool as I illustrated here:

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=6526327#p6526327

From my Amazon search, it looks like there are others out there from companies like Lezyne, etc.

Dynaplug has gotten a lot of the tubeless plug "hype", but they were neither the first, nor the only option. Enjoy!

http://bikeblather.blogspot.com/
Last edited by: Tom A.: Mar 1, 20 14:25
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Re: Tubeless Flat [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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Tom A. wrote:
trimule wrote:
"We're using the Dynaplug micro kit"
Definitely looks like a well designed and made tool, but.............DAMN...... $60 to fix a flat?


Yeah, there are kits out there that are equally as effective (if not more so, with the ability to insert multiple plug strips if needed) for much less money. For example, here's a newer kit from Genuine Innovations that's only $15:

https://www.amazon.com/...aps%2C213&sr=8-1



The replacement "bacon strips" are also very inexpensive...or, you can go even less inexpensive by merely buying a lifetime supply of cotton butcher's cord (i.e. a single roll) and using those with the tool as I illustrated here:

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=6526327#p6526327

From my Amazon search, it looks like there are others out there from companies like Lezyne, etc.

Dynaplug has gotten a lot of the tubeless plug "hype", but they were neither the first, nor the only option. Enjoy!


I carry this one with me when training and the dynaplug when racing.

In my experience, the plugs are long term fixes. They literally just become part of the tire.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [Celerius] [ In reply to ]
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Celerius wrote:
I've been riding on tubeless Schwalbes for over a year now. Love them. I got them primarily because they are supposed to be more resistant to flats. But it begs the question of what happens if they do get a puncture in a race. What is the quickest short term fix? Is it a patch with a CO2 canister? Any recommendations on kits or techniques are welcome.

There is a Tubeless Super Thread going that covers this and other questions/concerns about road tubeless. This isn't to say that you can't start other threads relating to tubeless for the rest of time - but we're doing our best to create a one-stop-shop for tubeless info.
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Re: Tubeless Flat [gregk] [ In reply to ]
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A “superthread” sounds like a great way to consolidate a few tidbits of great information with a wealth of bad experiences and disinformation.
Last edited by: commendatore: Aug 1, 19 19:35
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Re: Tubeless Flat [commendatore] [ In reply to ]
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commendatore wrote:
A “superthread” sounds like a great way to consolidate a few tidbits of great information with a wealth of bad experiences and disinformation.

"with a wealth of bad experiences and disinformation."

Avoiding that is the purpose of the thread. Feel free to check it out and participate constructively.
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