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What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec?
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I'm just curious as to what variations everyone experiences based on each of these settings.

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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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Almost always 3s. Smooths out the jumpiness from most power meters, quick enough to respond to shorter intervals/efforts.

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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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grs6 wrote:
I'm just curious as to what variations everyone experiences based on each of these settings.

Use for what? If the wheels in front of me are receding, I'm not doing enough power.

As far as training display goes... what makes sense depends on how you naturally respond to feedback. Some people respond very aggressively to differences in display and target, and need to use very short averaging so that they don't oscillate their power around the target. If you're not prone to that, you might like the smoother display of longer averages.
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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3s for training and road riding, 3s on zwift. 10s on IM race/race recce coombined with lap average (not lap NP). And then I break the race into 4 laps, normally the outbound and inbound legs of each of the 2 laps. So I'm targeting an average power for the race, the lap average shows if I'm on course for that or over/under. The 10s lets me really focus on hitting that when on long steady state stretches. In a race then short hills or descents I am good enough to go by feel and not blow up.
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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I use 3 but I've been considering jumping up to 10, just haven't given it a try yet. 3 still seems too jumpy for my liking, I think I would love 5 or something around there but no custom options unfortunately.

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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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10 seconds for me. 3 seconds I find too much variability

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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [gplama] [ In reply to ]
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How much jumpiness do you see with 3 sec? 10W? 20? more?

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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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grs6 wrote:
How much jumpiness do you see with 3 sec? 10W? 20? more?

That depends on the source power meter and the amount of smoothness it applies. There's no exact answer.

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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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5s avg on my Elemnt Bolt has worked well for me.
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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10 sec. No reason to use anything quicker, as it just jumps around too much.
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [NealH] [ In reply to ]
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3s power right next to avg overall power. So if I’m above/below target avg, I use the 3s to bring the avg up/down
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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3 sec and 5 mile lap average
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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Doesn't it depend on what information you want?

I usually want to monitor my going over or above the desired watts. So the faster that I get that feedback (3 seconds) the faster I can dial it back.

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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [IT] [ In reply to ]
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What are you doing? An IM? A TT? A road race? Training?

Training, indoors I use erg mode a lot. So doesn't really matter, set it and suffer/cry/complain/puke until you get it done.

Outdoors training? 3sec.
Time trial? 5 sec for the first maybe 1/2 mile, then mostly go by feel and make sure you're wasted when done.
Road race? Are you on the wheel or not? Pedal less, pedal harder. Are you bridging or not?

If I did a 1/2 IM or something, or maybe a 25mi TT......I'd probably use 5 or 10 sec and a 5 mile lap avg power, or at least a mile lap distance corresponding best to important course segments.
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [burnthesheep] [ In reply to ]
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3s average and normalized power.
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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Like most others, it depends.

For interval training I have set up 3s, 10s & lap power. Those 3 plus cadence & lap time are all that matters during those sessions.

For general riding or racing I use 3s & lap power and will hit the lap button when it makes sense.
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [burnthesheep] [ In reply to ]
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Im asking mostly because I see 10/20w variations using 3 sec power and wondering what everyone else sees based on the model of power meter that's used.

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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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I always use instant, but I'm a road cyclist who occasionally does time trials and triathlons. Therefore, I'm doing a lot of 30 sec-5 minute intervals where I need to know right away what my power is and be able to make slight adjustments quickly. I like the immediate feedback.
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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If the road was perfectly flat with no wind I might be able to hold +/- 10 watts.

That's why I use lap power as well to see the trend.
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [jaretj] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, that's exactly my experience. If there are other conditions, the variation is significantly larger. Thank you!

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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [burnthesheep] [ In reply to ]
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Like I said "It all depends on what information you want." And, pretty much all I do is train outdoors.

You've covered many other situations. And, if you haven't someone could call you out for missing one or two.

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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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3 sec and 30 sec next to each other. Lap NP further down.
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Re: What power averaging do you use? 3/10/30 sec? [grs6] [ In reply to ]
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I make all my athletes turn off all averaging. instance power teach power awareness, promotes smooth power output, and pedal and cadence control.

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