Yes, plus he has 5 ITU world titles and frodeno none. And he certainly tried more than once...
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Re: Javier Gómez, World Champ again [Rocky M]
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No, his achievements do though
Re: Javier Gómez, World Champ again [Rocky M]
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Rocky M wrote:
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Was from June 2016, only "head to head" comparison I could find on the internets. I only count 3 JG WTS wins since then though. Am I missing something? https://www.triathlon.org/...95/javier_gomez_noya
Agree with you to a certain degree about Jan. No one would ever claim he was even a top 10 all time ITU guy. But,...given his body and breadth of work WINNING big races and setting records along the way it's hard to ignore him. He won an Olympic gold. Gomez didn't. He won Kona twice, Gomez didn't. Etc.
C'mon, Gomez only raced Kona 1x, how can you be fair in your statement? "He won Kona twice, Gomez didn't..." Did you even read what you wrote? To judge JG when he just arrived on the ultra scene is premature. We have no idea what he will do these next few years with more experience. I don't think he will win a Kona ever, myself...IMO, but possibly top 3.
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yes, and back to my point: when javi showed up at kona for the first time, he was taken seriously. reasonable, experienced observers of the sport thought he had at least a chance to win. and they would think the same if he showed up at a half, an olympic, a sprint, a du, a mixed-format, and an xterra. there are really not many triathletes who you can say that about, ever.
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Re: Javier Gómez, World Champ again [Rocky M]
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Rocky M wrote:
lschaan wrote:
Was from June 2016, only "head to head" comparison I could find on the internets. I only count 3 JG WTS wins since then though. Am I missing something? https://www.triathlon.org/...95/javier_gomez_noya
Agree with you to a certain degree about Jan. No one would ever claim he was even a top 10 all time ITU guy. But,...given his body and breadth of work WINNING big races and setting records along the way it's hard to ignore him. He won an Olympic gold. Gomez didn't. He won Kona twice, Gomez didn't. Etc.
C'mon, Gomez only raced Kona 1x, how can you be fair in your statement? "He won Kona twice, Gomez didn't..." Did you even read what you wrote? To judge JG when he just arrived on the ultra scene is premature. We have no idea what he will do these next few years with more experience. I don't think he will win a Kona ever, myself...IMO, but possibly top 3.
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Curious what you object to in my statement? I didn't say that Gomez can't ultimately become the GOAT if he wins a few Kona's. Just that he hasn't yet. Thus,...not the GOAT.
Re: Javier Gómez, World Champ again [runner66]
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I am assuming that you did not grow up watching Pete Sampras play, if you think that the current top 3 are the best ever "by far". I don't see how you cannot put Sampras in the top 3 of all time. Best serve ever, and probably the best forehand also.I have watched a lot of tennis. Watched more or less everything from mid 80´s and 90´s. Pete is great but Federer, Nadal and Djokovic are in their own league. So dominate during such a long time and in the best period in tennis. They also have most GS´s.
Uh...the fact you said Frodo won Kona 2x & Gomez didn't.
If he only raced it 1x it is impossible to win it 2x.
If he only raced it 1x it is impossible to win it 2x.