Maybe we need to forward this info on to Sagan. Sagan is no longer feeling like Sagan this Spring. Hopefully TdeCalifornia will be good to him.

Good to hear of the unexpected benefits of other bikes.

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Indoor Triathlete - I thought I was right, until I realized I was wrong.

Who needs a kickstand when you can just use a pedal.

I think something maybe missed in the original post start is "fun" also meaning a bike you don't mind trashing up a little bit doing things you wouldn't normally do with a $5000 bike.

Ignoring the loss of skin in an incident, I would not use a $5000 TT bike to go chase hairy KOM's in town during VO2 workouts.

But, a $700 all-in beater TT bike? Sure.

Also, you really really like taking a $5000 road bike on a cafe, food, beer cruise and trying to lock that up? No, more fun taking some cheapo thing you can tie to a tree and looks like nobody wants to steal it.

Then you can have fun with your treat and not sweat looking around the corner every 5 seconds at your fancy race bike.

I don't think I could ride home after a few beers on a TT bike. Hence the Stingray. Definitely want a bike no one will steal while eating/drinking. Hence the Stingray is off the table.

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Indoor Triathlete - I thought I was right, until I realized I was wrong.