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Iā€™ve been plagued by calf strains the last few seasons, almost to the point of binning tri altogether. Iā€™m building volume slowly following BarryP program with daily runs. In order to keep disciplined and not over do things, Iā€™m running mainly on the treadmill at the prescribed speeds and distances.

Iā€™ve aimed to maintain ā€œrunā€ fitness by doing HIIT work on the elliptical cross trainer. Iā€™ve been doing five gym days a week with a 32 minute HIIT elliptical, ~40 minutes of weights and then the treadmill running on the end.

I get a really strong ammonia smell when Iā€™m doing the HIIT workout, but not during normal runs. My longest run is only 50 minutes at the moment, so probably not long enough to force the body to scavenge aminos, but the HIIT workout does.

How much pre-workout feeding will help avoid this? A sandwich an hour before the gym? I donā€™t really use much in the way of energy drinks when training, but do use amino acid infra-workout drinks. Iā€™m also running a calorie deficit and cleaning up my diet as I start being more focussed on my main race goal. Anyone else had this?
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Re: Ammonia sweats... [JerseyBigfoot] [ In reply to ]
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It's pretty common, not to be an ass but try googling it and you'll find a ton of info.
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Re: Ammonia sweats... [hobbyjogger] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, Iā€™ve googled. Iā€™ll just experiment with a pre workout feed. Was trying to keep a good calorie deficit but probably gone a bit far.
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Re: Ammonia sweats... [JerseyBigfoot] [ In reply to ]
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Happens to me regardless of calorie deficit.
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Re: Ammonia sweats... [JerseyBigfoot] [ In reply to ]
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JerseyBigfoot wrote:
Yeah, Iā€™ve googled. Iā€™ll just experiment with a pre workout feed. Was trying to keep a good calorie deficit but probably gone a bit far.

It is very difficult to have a high training load and also run a significant deficit. Your performance is going to be suffering greatly.
Determine if weight or fitness are more important at this time and play to that.
More often than not weight loss is best done in the off-season with only moderate training loads.

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Re: Ammonia sweats... [xtrpickels] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, Iā€™m trying to get the weight loss done during the initial base period before moving onto higher intensity build phase. Got some time to get this done.

I find the biggest challenge is keeping the deficit small enough to hang on to as much muscle mass as possible. Was worried the ammonia smell was heralding too great a deficit.
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Re: Ammonia sweats... [JerseyBigfoot] [ In reply to ]
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JerseyBigfoot wrote:
Yeah, Iā€™m trying to get the weight loss done during the initial base period before moving onto higher intensity build phase. Got some time to get this done.

I find the biggest challenge is keeping the deficit small enough to hang on to as much muscle mass as possible. Was worried the ammonia smell was heralding too great a deficit.

Except you're doing HIIT in your low intensity base phase...

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Re: Ammonia sweats... [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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On the crosstrainer... to counteract this, Iā€™m super slow everywhere else... ;-)
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Re: Ammonia sweats... [JerseyBigfoot] [ In reply to ]
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If you smell like ammonia, you could be catabolizing and burning muscle. My shoes and I used to smell like that when I was overdoing it. You might want to change something.

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Re: Ammonia sweats... [JerseyBigfoot] [ In reply to ]
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I suspect the elliptical might be adding to your calf problems. Most people I know who've used one say that they end up with calf/achilles problems. Maybe try biking instead?
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Re: Ammonia sweats... [imswimmer328] [ In reply to ]
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Iā€™ll be your n-1. Itā€™s been great for me; allowed me to crank out some good work and focus on a really slow, controlled build of my running on the treadmill after.

Also training on the bike; following TR half mid-volume base, and their associated swim/run suggestions.
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Re: Ammonia sweats... [JerseyBigfoot] [ In reply to ]
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Yep. Donā€™t mind it but my daughter will tell me I stink when I get back from runs. Happens on normal runs for me if on low carb or fasted run - eg 10 mile run on empty stomach and no sugars. I do try to increase electrolytes so will use Nuun or something else. Hope that help.



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