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Happy Cesar Chavez day!
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Cesar Chavez was an American labor leader and civil rights activist of the 60's. As a Union leader and labor organizer Cesar Chavez dedicated his life to improving treatment, pay and working conditions for farm workers.

Born near Yuma, Arizona, on March 31, 1927, Cesar Chavez employed nonviolent means (most of the time) to bring attention to the plight of farmworkers, and formed both the National Farm Workers Association, which later became United Farm Workers. As a labor leader, Chavez led marches, called for boycotts and went on several hunger strikes. It is believed that Chavez's hunger strikes contributed to his death on April 23, 1993, in San Luis, Arizona.



Cesar also had great passion for the American farm worker but was no fan of "illegals" referring to them as "wetbacks": "Flooding the labor market with people from abroad undermines American workers trying to improve their lot in life."
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Re: Happy Cesar Chavez day! [getcereal] [ In reply to ]
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One of my favorite Simpsons episodes is when Homer goes on a hunger strike to keep the local minor league baseball team from moving to Albuquerque. At one point he hallucinates and sees a well dressed man in a suit with slicked back white hair and a mustache:

Man (in Spanish accent) : "Hello Homer, I am the ghost of Cesar Chavez"

Homer: "Why do you look like Cesar Romero?"

Man: " Because you don't know who Cesar Chavez is!"



"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race." - Richard Butler

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Re: Happy Cesar Chavez day! [Brian in MA] [ In reply to ]
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I grew up in a work at will state. I can't imagine any conservatives here ever having a soft spot for this guy despite the stance on immigration he had. Most conservatives in these parts are very very anti-union anti-organized labor. They basically label them commies and socialists and write them off.

When in reality, this kind of activism can be seen as a form of socialism. OOOOOOOOhhh, big bad socialism......rage boner.
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Re: Happy Cesar Chavez day! [burnthesheep] [ In reply to ]
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burnthesheep wrote:
I grew up in a work at will state. I can't imagine any conservatives here ever having a soft spot for this guy despite the stance on immigration he had. Most conservatives in these parts are very very anti-union anti-organized labor. They basically label them commies and socialists and write them off.


When in reality, this kind of activism can be seen as a form of socialism. OOOOOOOOhhh, big bad socialism......rage boner.


Nice leap... Union have there place, but just like anything they have their limits. For example here in Ca. Unions have a whole different agenda they are way past better working conditions.The majority of all state representative are bought and payed for by powerful unions. The unchallenged public sector union agenda - more government pay, benefits, more government employees, and more taxes and borrowing. They are succeeding and are immensely powerful and have a stranglehold on the super majority Dem. controlled legislature.


This is far from Chavez's fight for field workers having better working conditions like having toilets and a protection from having their jobs replaced by an endless flow of cheap labor crossing the border.


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Re: Happy Cesar Chavez day! [getcereal] [ In reply to ]
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getcereal wrote:
Nice leap... Union have there place, but just like anything they have their limits. For example here in Ca. Unions have a whole different agenda they are way past better working conditions.The majority of all state representative are bought and payed for by powerful unions. The unchallenged public sector union agenda - more government pay, benefits, more government employees, and more taxes and borrowing. They are succeeding and are immensely powerful and have a stranglehold on the super majority Dem. controlled legislature.


This is far from Chavez's fight for field workers having better working conditions like having toilets and a protection from having their jobs replaced by an endless flow of cheap labor crossing the border.

Nice job setting up that strawman. Pretty much textbook. Present something at first that most level headed folks would agree with.

Then, narrowly defining the argument to score a "win" against modern unions.

Examples like yours are repeated to voters all the time to try to drum up the anti-union rhetoric.

Out of curiosity, what specifically was asked for that was out of line? Not talking about buying politicians........what strike, demand, deal, etc was there that you disagreed with. Teacher pay and class size? Sanitary workers? Janitorial staff in schools? Pensions?
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