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What are the top couple of options available for age groupers looking to gain a few watts on the bike of an ironman?

Would curious to see your thoughts on TOP aero suit as well as best BANG FOR YOUR BUCK option.

Thanks!
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [thunderdouble] [ In reply to ]
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Whatever long (and by that, I mean to elbow, not to your wrist) version fits you the best without wrinkles and will make you comfortably sit in aero position for a long time.
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [thunderdouble] [ In reply to ]
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I would be inclined to look at BioRacer or NoPInz, maybe HUUB too.
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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Any models you would start with?
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [unicat141] [ In reply to ]
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If you are asking if there are any suits that have generally tested well in the wind tunnel for a wide variety of people, I don’t know. there are other on here who might and have replied to similar threads and might reply here
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [thunderdouble] [ In reply to ]
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it depends
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [thunderdouble] [ In reply to ]
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Velotec is consistently testing faster than any other suit at most of the test facilities around the world (at least those who don't have there own suits to sell...funny how that happens). Then again, it'a highly individual. If you're looking for best bang for buck, it's an easy recommendation.

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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone have a specific rec?
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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at least those who don't have there own suits to sell...funny how that happens

Um, meaning Aerocoach/NoPinz?
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Ohio_Roadie] [ In reply to ]
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Where do you start? Anyone suggest a few to order and test fit?
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Jim@EROsports wrote:
Velotec is consistently testing faster than any other suit at most of the test facilities around the world (at least those who don't have there own suits to sell...funny how that happens). Then again, it'a highly individual. If you're looking for best bang for buck, it's an easy recommendation.

I'd never heard of velotec before now. It's so cheap! Is it the LD suit or elite suit tht that's well?

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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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It's the long sleeve Aero Skinsuit. Not sure if the tri suit has really been tested.

I'd look at the New HUUB suit and Cuore of Switzerland suits, if you need something tri specific.



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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Jim@EROsports wrote:
Velotec is consistently testing faster than any other suit at most of the test facilities around the world (at least those who don't have there own suits to sell...funny how that happens). Then again, it'a highly individual. If you're looking for best bang for buck, it's an easy recommendation.

Is there a reason you believe the Velotec is testing faster? Ie. is there a feature or design element that makes it so? Also, have you tested anyone with a NEW tight fitting race suit that is a rear zip sleeveless with the lanyard tucked in? Has anyone tested suits initially that were fast but then after a few uses they slowed down considerably?


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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Jim@EROsports wrote:
Velotec is consistently testing faster than any other suit at most of the test facilities around the world (at least those who don't have there own suits to sell...funny how that happens). Then again, it'a highly individual. If you're looking for best bang for buck, it's an easy recommendation.


I bought a few of the velotec kits the one problem they have is they are soooo freaking ugly my wife wouldn't let me wear it. Really big neck and see through material....


look at the top it is all see through and if you go one their instagram you will notice no shots of the kit except side shots kinda hiding the ugliness.
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Cookiebuilder] [ In reply to ]
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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I ordered direct i had it in a week maybe a week and a half. might have a med extra if you want.
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Cookiebuilder] [ In reply to ]
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I'd be interested if you still got it. They sais it would be 3 weeks till they are back in stock.

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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Cookiebuilder] [ In reply to ]
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Cookiebuilder wrote:
Jim@EROsports wrote:
Velotec is consistently testing faster than any other suit at most of the test facilities around the world (at least those who don't have there own suits to sell...funny how that happens). Then again, it'a highly individual. If you're looking for best bang for buck, it's an easy recommendation.


I bought a few of the velotec kits the one problem they have is they are soooo freaking ugly my wife wouldn't let me wear it. Really big neck and see through material....


look at the top it is all see through and if you go one their instagram you will notice no shots of the kit except side shots kinda hiding the ugliness.


Based on the feedback here, I just bought one of the black UCI legal skinsuits. I'm not having the same experience as you. I can't see your picture, but mine is not see through and I am pretty pale. As for the neck hole, It's not larger than any other suits I've had and if you look at most skinsuits the neck tends to stretch out when standing because they are designed to be in the proper position when in the TT position.

At face value, it seems to be well worth the $100 (slightly more with conversion), but everyone's experience is individual, so your mileage may vary.
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Cookiebuilder] [ In reply to ]
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I have Velotec's Pro Aero Skinsuit and it's a great piece of kit. I hate a neck that stretches out like the suit in your pic. The Pro Aero Skinsuit neck does not stretch out like that. It actually fits without much skin showing around the neck at all. Also, the skinsuit is not see through on me. These suits are very common at the time trials I've competed in and they look great (not see through and with a normal fitting neck).

I think Jim@ERO is referring to this skisuit's performance. The results are reported in a Cycling Weekly article

I cannot speak for Velotec's trisuit though, which I believe is what you are wearing.

When it comes to trisuits, IMHO, the Louis Garneau Lgneer is the best available. The Kiwami, Roka and Huub suits also look like great options.
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Re: AERO - Speedsuit / Race Ki [thunderdouble] [ In reply to ]
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The difference between well fitting skin suits can’t br more than a minute over an IM. I doubt if it’s even 30s. If that kind of time matters to you, then by all means do your research. Otaherwise pick one that fits well and you are comfortable in.

I have had the Fusion skin suit in the past along with the Desoto Riviera and Castelli All out. Between those, I would go Castelli>Desoto in a close race. Fusion is good but it’s hard to get into and out of it and pee because of how high the zipper is. I would recommend it for a HIM but not IM
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Re: AERO - Speedsuit / Race Ki [thunderdouble] [ In reply to ]
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thunderdouble wrote:
What are the top couple of options available for age groupers looking to gain a few watts on the bike of an ironman?

Would curious to see your thoughts on TOP aero suit as well as best BANG FOR YOUR BUCK option.

Thanks!

Since you said for an Ironman a few watts are great assuming you can still run. A suit needs to be fast on the bike (no brainer) but if its uncomfortable, hot, restrictive, on the run it can will slow you down. What's the point of a few watts, assuming you are not going to fully change your gear in T2, if you can't run in it.? If you fully change the watts savings can be eaten up in transition.

Fast bike splits are a very good thing but.....................the marathon is where Ironman dreams go to die.
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Re: AERO - Speedsuit / Race Ki [thunderdouble] [ In reply to ]
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Not sure about "Bang for buck" but been very happy with the Kiwami Spider 2. I have not tested it but I biked super low watts with a good MPH avg. It has some features that some other suits don't have that I think are very nice. If your racing long course storage and cooling I think come into play and need to be talked about.





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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone use a velotec? How is the sizing compared to other suits?
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Re: AERO - Best available speedsuit ( [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Jim,

I have always enjoyed/appreciated your insight and have a question. I recently got the new Specialized Tri suit. It is VERY comfortable and the fit from the chest down is perfect. I got the small/tall and I am 6ft2 and 150lbs.

The sleeves are not tight enough and scrunch up a bit creating some wrinkles on the arms and shoulders.

I do know a good seamstress. Do you think attempting to get those sleeves taken in is worthwhile? If they stayed down I think the shoulders would be wrinkle free.

Thanks Jim
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