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Can we slow down the game even more?
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Nova
Mar 27, 19 5:14
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Now they are gonna review PI calls and no calls...

A 3.5 hour game just went to 4 hours.

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/...nterference-dpi-opi/
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Kay Serrar
Mar 27, 19 5:25
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It would have been hard for the NFL not to have done something after the Saints/Rams no call. Think it's a good thing on balance. I just think they need to speed up the process of any reviews.
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Nova
Mar 27, 19 5:37
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I'm sure the players cooling down and getting stiff don't want so many reviews. Why have refs at all if every call is "Under review"

Missed calls happen. Bad calls happen. I'm tired of watching Bud light commercials when I should be watching football.

This makes going to a game in S. Florida impossible. It's bad enough to sit there next to some sweaty fat guy for 3 hours.
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Rick_pcfl
Mar 27, 19 5:41
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If nothing else, they could have allowed it in the fourth quarter only when it becomes more critical.
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Perseus
Mar 27, 19 5:51
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If I understand the change correctly, it's a great move. From the very beginning I thought the challenge flag should have been used to get the ruling on the last play correct, not simply to challenge what was called.
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Alvin Tostig
Mar 27, 19 7:26
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Nova wrote:
Missed calls happen. Bad calls happen. I'm tired of watching Bud light commercials when I should be watching football.
Heck, even with review missed calls and bad calls happen. (Wait until they start reviewing whether or not the left tackle was holding a pass rusher on every play.)

Tell the refs on the field they're there to do a job. No one will be looking over your shoulder to bail you out when you get the call wrong. And if you get a call wrong, that's just a fact of life and everyone will have to live with it.

(Some of the Bud Light commercials are pretty good, though.)
"Human existence is based upon two pillars: Compassion and knowledge. Compassion without knowledge is ineffective; Knowledge without compassion is inhuman." Victor Weisskopf.
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j p o
Mar 27, 19 7:58
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If they don't increase the number of challenges then I am ok with it. They have the ability to get it right, they should do it. Hopefully they apply the clear and convincing standard pretty strictly on these so they get plays like the NFC championship right but don't start overturning non-calls for every little hand fight.
I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Frank
Mar 27, 19 8:16
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That's why I DVR the games I want to watch.

I love football and can't remember the last time I watched one in real time - other than the superbowl. I simply don't have the time to sit around for 3.5+ hours on a Sunday (or Sat for playoffs) and watch tv.

I can watch an entire game in about 40 minutes and not. miss. a. single. play. I'm really good at ff through the bs between plays. No commercials, no halftime where big dudes state the obvious of what we all just watched... Just the game thanks.

The only difficult task is avoiding scoring updates and spoil alerts from social media... or just being out and about if it's a big game.

If I can help it I'll never sit through a filler-stuffed, slog of an NFL game again.
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mck414
Mar 27, 19 8:19
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I don't have a problem with this specific rule change. Defensive PI is a spot foul, which can be a YUGE game changer if called incorrectly. Whereas Offensive PI is a measly 10 yards from the previous spot. Hardly fair in the scheme of the game.

If Defensive PI was only 15 yards, like college, then I'd say no review needed.
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Nova
Mar 27, 19 8:46
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mck414 wrote:
I don't have a problem with this specific rule change. Defensive PI is a spot foul, which can be a YUGE game changer if called incorrectly. Whereas Offensive PI is a measly 10 yards from the previous spot. Hardly fair in the scheme of the game.

If Defensive PI was only 15 yards, like college, then I'd say no review needed.

That's what they should have done. How many times have teams thrown the long ball just in hopes of getting the PI.

Make it 15 yards, screw the review, and lets play football.
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sphere
Mar 27, 19 8:56
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"Make it 15 yards, screw the review, and lets play football"

This.
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zed707
Mar 27, 19 14:25
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I agree with the article that it shouldn't significantly affect the pace of play since the coaches still have the same number of challenges. They won't want to waste a challenge unless it's obvious and a big swing.

As far the the NFL pass interference rule, I think the NFL has it right. I can't stand it when in the college game, if a DB is beat on a long pass play, they can just tackle the receiver before the ball gets there and take the 15 yards. That seems unfair and unsportsmanlike and it happens too often.
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A-A-Ron
Mar 27, 19 14:56
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Nova wrote:
mck414 wrote:
I don't have a problem with this specific rule change. Defensive PI is a spot foul, which can be a YUGE game changer if called incorrectly. Whereas Offensive PI is a measly 10 yards from the previous spot. Hardly fair in the scheme of the game.

If Defensive PI was only 15 yards, like college, then I'd say no review needed.


That's what they should have done. How many times have teams thrown the long ball just in hopes of getting the PI.

Make it 15 yards, screw the review, and lets play football.

If the rule was 15 yards then every time a DB was beat on a play he could/would just go head hunt the receiver and knock him down long before the ball got there. A rule like that could negate a lot of big time plays, as a DB think you might be in a bad position? Knock the guy down, take the 15 yards and save the TD, no brainer. Which just so happens to be exactly what the Saints player was doing in the NFC champ game, he knew he got beat so he took the guy out to save the TD. I certainly don't want to see more of that.

It isn't going to slow the game down because they are not giving the coaches any more red flags to through. Same amount of challenges, same potential for game slowing reviews as before. They just now have the opportunity to use them on game changing plays, which was the point all along.

We just have to hope that Joey "toss the red flag early and often" Philbin, doesn't get a HC job anytime soon.
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Nova
Mar 27, 19 15:37
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A-A-Ron wrote:
Nova wrote:
mck414 wrote:
I don't have a problem with this specific rule change. Defensive PI is a spot foul, which can be a YUGE game changer if called incorrectly. Whereas Offensive PI is a measly 10 yards from the previous spot. Hardly fair in the scheme of the game.

If Defensive PI was only 15 yards, like college, then I'd say no review needed.


That's what they should have done. How many times have teams thrown the long ball just in hopes of getting the PI.

Make it 15 yards, screw the review, and lets play football.


If the rule was 15 yards then every time a DB was beat on a play he could/would just go head hunt the receiver and knock him down long before the ball got there. A rule like that could negate a lot of big time plays, as a DB think you might be in a bad position? Knock the guy down, take the 15 yards and save the TD, no brainer. Which just so happens to be exactly what the Saints player was doing in the NFC champ game, he knew he got beat so he took the guy out to save the TD. I certainly don't want to see more of that.

It isn't going to slow the game down because they are not giving the coaches any more red flags to through. Same amount of challenges, same potential for game slowing reviews as before. They just now have the opportunity to use them on game changing plays, which was the point all along.

We just have to hope that Joey "toss the red flag early and often" Philbin, doesn't get a HC job anytime soon.

It's not PI if the ball isn't in the air, its just holding, 10 yds auto first. A lot of that goes on and isn't called because the ball goes the other way or the play wasn't meant to be pass

DB's will tackle, grab, interfere, whatever when they are beat to save the TD whether it's spot foul or 15yds.

I think there are too many "under review plays." Every touchdown, every this, or that... Enough, play the damn game.
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A-A-Ron
Mar 27, 19 15:49
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Nova wrote:
A-A-Ron wrote:
Nova wrote:
mck414 wrote:
I don't have a problem with this specific rule change. Defensive PI is a spot foul, which can be a YUGE game changer if called incorrectly. Whereas Offensive PI is a measly 10 yards from the previous spot. Hardly fair in the scheme of the game.

If Defensive PI was only 15 yards, like college, then I'd say no review needed.


That's what they should have done. How many times have teams thrown the long ball just in hopes of getting the PI.

Make it 15 yards, screw the review, and lets play football.


If the rule was 15 yards then every time a DB was beat on a play he could/would just go head hunt the receiver and knock him down long before the ball got there. A rule like that could negate a lot of big time plays, as a DB think you might be in a bad position? Knock the guy down, take the 15 yards and save the TD, no brainer. Which just so happens to be exactly what the Saints player was doing in the NFC champ game, he knew he got beat so he took the guy out to save the TD. I certainly don't want to see more of that.

It isn't going to slow the game down because they are not giving the coaches any more red flags to through. Same amount of challenges, same potential for game slowing reviews as before. They just now have the opportunity to use them on game changing plays, which was the point all along.

We just have to hope that Joey "toss the red flag early and often" Philbin, doesn't get a HC job anytime soon.


It's not PI if the ball isn't in the air, its just holding, 10 yds auto first. A lot of that goes on and isn't called because the ball goes the other way or the play wasn't meant to be pass

DB's will tackle, grab, interfere, whatever when they are beat to save the TD whether it's spot foul or 15yds.

I think there are too many "under review plays." Every touchdown, every this, or that... Enough, play the damn game.

Okay so you agree that a DB will interfere to save a TD even with the current rule of spot fouls. So are just to not have any more plays over 15 yards because every DB is instructed to knock their guy down anytime a ball is thrown to him over 15 yards?

No thanks.

I do agree the reviews take way too long. I think that got worse when they started deferring to NY on everything.
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