In the instance of "self" or "quick" service places like coffee, food truck, counter, etc........no, we never tip. I'm sorry they want to try to survive by doing lower food prices and guilt people into paying more into tip jars.

There's a certain basic expectation of a product in those circumstances.

Restaurants are different. You sit, they bring water, take drink orders, bring drinks, take menu orders, bring that food, refill drinks, bring extras, clean spills, take away plates, bring dessert menu.................you get the idea. If I get good service there, we tip well. Not the high school 10% crap either. Those folks work hard for pretty low pay and if they helped me have a good time I can show that. Especially since the US system is so effed and broken for minimum wage and restaurant tipping anyway.

One thing I notice about food trucks that really grinds my gears is the super rapid order taking that FAR exceeds their ability to output food. Then having a second line of customers demanding refunds. Had that happen twice out of about 5 trucks we've ever gotten food from. The line doesn't appear very long so you think "great!". Then realize the line is short because they can just take orders super fast. Screw those guys.

If I pick up my food/drinks, then I don't tip.

If you bring the food/drinks to my table, then I tip.

Just went to a Greek rest. in cleveland and paid $9 for another Gyro... must be the going price there.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

Wow then you have not really done a very good job in reading the posts. Because as I have stated, I hate the tipping society and how it has evolved in the US, but I never take it out on the server and leave at a minimum a 20% tip when I on the very rare occasion go out to eat. Now maybe in your book that's cheap.

Now how you get selfish or a lack of understanding of generosity is beyond me.

The fact that we only have a tipping society because Rest. owners were to cheap to pay their staff minimum wage, somehow brings my generosity or selfishness into call is rather interesting.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

Yeah.. I guess that's a pretty good summary. If there is a Tip jar there's a problem.

I don't let it bother me.. But its fun to start these threads on S.T. and watch the Barry's of the world jump all over them.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

+1

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

Shhhh don't say that to loud, you might get labeled a selfish cheap bastard.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

Did it come with a side?

Nope, I ordered a Classic and a small pop, Daughter ordered a Vegetarian, with a shh don't tell (20% tip) the total was $25. Didn't get a receipt (printer was broken) so not exactly sure the break down, but saw on the board the classic had a 9 next to it (assume that was the price) Probably 9 for each Gyro, 2.50 for the drink (wow that was an expensive small pop)

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

But what do you do in states where they do pay the minimum wage (or better) to staff? That's my current philosophical dilemma having moved to Oregon. I believe I'm justified in tipping less because the price of the food is obviously higher than where I came from (AZ) so why should I have to pay twice. The spouse believes they were underpaid before, even with tips, so this is just a way of evening things out, and I should still tip 20%. At least we don't have sales tax so I don't have to deal with the pre-figured tip suggestions that are based on the after-tax price - pet peeve.

Still between 1 and 4 bucks overpriced

Before this thread didn't even know there were states like this. I would leave at least a 20% tip cause that's what I normally do. I would also be on vacation and not really notice the food was more than at home (or not care)

Well you can try to explain what has been stated here over and over apparently wait staff love being underpaid and relying on tips cause they make more that way, so don't pitty them that they are underpaid. This is just one more thing that makes eating out less enjoyable for me, so we just don't do it often. Good thing for me wife feels the same way about eating out, just not worth all the hassles and inconvenience. (especially now that most do carry out and you can order ahead and pick up, hell apparently Uber food is getting restaurants to open that don't even have seats it's just a kitchen making food for uber to deliver. They even make different names of restaurants to go with the fare but its all from the same kitchen)

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

Eh if I lived there, might be an issue, But a meal out with my daughter before leaving here for the rest of the semester, not going to sweat it. We usually go somewhere different each time I pick here up and return her. Good way to get to see where she hangs out and a taste of the town.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

I wouldnt tip mainly because it is most likely their stand. They are the owners. They set the pricing.

Maybe you have the gyro and say, hot dog that is the best gyro ever, and then feel the need to tip.

Maybe I wasn't clear. Yes it was very clear, it was there stand, there were no employees other than the owners. That was really kind of my point.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.