40-Tude wrote:
slowguy wrote:
ergopower wrote:
I think one thing missing from the responses above (some very good points made, though) is that a part of the foundation of Catholicism is the receiving of sacraments. There are the milestone ones such as baptism, first communion, confirmation, marriage and last rites; but there are also the recurring ones of communion and confession. So to disassociate from the Church means being unable to have your children baptized, receive their first communion or be confirmed; nor for you to receive communion or to confess on a periodic basis.This. It's not realistic to frame this in terms of whether someone would like to continue to be part of an "organization." That neglects to address the issues of belief and faith.
I like the analogy above regarding nationality. Many people don't support many of the actions of the United States government. That doesn't mean they are clamoring to disassociate themselves from the United States of America, and the ideals they associate with the country. Similarly, many Catholics don't support the actions of Church leadership. That doesn't mean they don't want to be Catholics anymore. It means they want the Church to clean up its act.
Yes. And the analogy posted earlier is how I frame this up. It originated from the following moment . . .
When wife and I decided to get married, it was important to my mom (dad had passed) that we have a Church marriage at our local parish that the family regularly attended at the time. Mom has always been and always will be a devout Catholic. So wife (raised Jewish, not practicing) had to be convinced, but eventually was ok with it, being that it was important to Mom and all.
When we met with the Priest to discuss and arrange, it was all negative from him . . . mixed faith marriages aren't a good idea, won't work, your kids will be messed up, blah blah blah. We were both shocked at how "unwelcoming" the whole vibe was. I was also peeved that the love of my life is being indirectly and directly disparaged. Wife was adamant that he not officiate the ceremony. That's the moment when I realized that it was his personal opinion, bias, and not the "right" point of view; That there is a distinct separation between the true principles and practice, and person(s) that are only "in the way".
Long story short, we found a different Priest that supported us, officiated the ceremony and served as Minister of Record. That was 25 years ago. Still going strong, and kids, now teens, are fine (most of the time).
If your wife had been practicing or returned to the her faith he would have been right based on anecdotal observed relationships.