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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [alex_korr] [ In reply to ]
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alex_korr wrote:
Well Phil G can sustain 292w avg for 4 hours according to this - https://www.strava.com/activities/2158269315

That's like Lionel's wattage for the 70.3 give or take?

My imaginary money is on Phil.

Lionel did that wattage for 4+ hours at IM Arizona in 2017 and then ran a 2:47 marathon. https://www.lsanderstri.com/...1/21/im-arizona-2017

Pretty sure he has been above 300 W for most races lately. He does weigh more though.
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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thatzone wrote:
? Or will he even try?
We can only pray an attempt is made :)
And not from Subway all the way up just the climb portion.
Come on Lionel you can do it!!!

Little surprise that nobody mentioned this, but that isn't the Mt Lemmon record in my book. Lionel went to observatory and that is something like another 7+ miles and 2,000 feet of climbing. I haven't been on Strava in a while but it is looking like it is mighty disorganized mess with listing of duplicate KOMs and then not even crediting people with doing certain rides. Anyway, no way shape or form is this an apples-to-apples unless I am missing something. My best guess is if Lionel really cared he could take it back.


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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Any reason that you're not as much a Phil fan?

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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [ChasingPB] [ In reply to ]
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ChasingPB wrote:
Any reason that you're not as much a Phil fan?

I enjoyed the first book and was initially a fan. But got tired of his social media persona later...felt he went a bit Ashley Horner.
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
thatzone wrote:
? Or will he even try?

We can only pray an attempt is made :)
And not from Subway all the way up just the climb portion.
Come on Lionel you can do it!!!


Little surprise that nobody mentioned this, but that isn't the Mt Lemmon record in my book. Lionel went to observatory and that is something like another 7+ miles and 2,000 feet of climbing.


are you sure...?

https://www.strava.com/...00397?filter=overall

Lionel went to Ski Valley, not to the observatory.

https://www.strava.com/...61795798#13263880586
Last edited by: jkhayc: Feb 19, 19 6:22
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]
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Zero to mile 20 is the money shot..
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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yes, i generally regard that as the climb. and yes, i think lionel could take that if he wanted. but others could also go faster as well.
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [BigBoyND] [ In reply to ]
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BigBoyND wrote:
alex_korr wrote:
Well Phil G can sustain 292w avg for 4 hours according to this - https://www.strava.com/activities/2158269315

That's like Lionel's wattage for the 70.3 give or take?

My imaginary money is on Phil.


Lionel did that wattage for 4+ hours at IM Arizona in 2017 and then ran a 2:47 marathon. https://www.lsanderstri.com/...1/21/im-arizona-2017

Pretty sure he has been above 300 W for most races lately. He does weigh more though.

I don't think IM Arizona has Colombia altitude mountains. Meaning, above 5 to 6k feet, the power is going to be measurably less at altitude. And that ride got up there. So, that's worth a good amount of power.
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [MadTownTRI] [ In reply to ]
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I was on Mt Lemmon the day Lionel took the KOM on his LG gennix TT bike. I remember it well, I got engaged to my current wife at the top!
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [titemple652] [ In reply to ]
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titemple652 wrote:
I was on Mt Lemmon the day Lionel took the KOM on his LG gennix TT bike. I remember it well, I got engaged to my current wife at the top!

I admire your restraint. Most of the Lionel Lovers on slowtwitch would have kicked the lady to the side and proposed to Lionel instead.
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [alex_korr] [ In reply to ]
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alex_korr wrote:
Hard to compare a Kona ride to a straight 50 mile climb for a 14k feet gain...

Not to mention topping out at over 12,000' where is power output is probably close to 30% lower than sea level.

This is not a comparison worth making in any way shape or form.

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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [T-wrecks] [ In reply to ]
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T-wrecks wrote:
I admire your restraint. Most of the Lionel Lovers on slowtwitch would have kicked the lady to the side and proposed to Lionel instead.

This guy wins the internets today.

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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [cmscat50] [ In reply to ]
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cmscat50 wrote:
Pretty Lionel has advertised his FTP at about 400? About 75KG? He's not even in the ballpark for world tour pro w/kg....especially for a climber.

Based on some of the data that Phil has published via Strava, I'm pretty sure his FTP is in the ballpark of 375-385 and he weighs significantly less.
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Phil would take AT on a straight-up 15-20 minute climb now, but at the end of a longer ride it'd end up the same where endurance factors. I ride with AT a bit and when he starts pushing on pedals, the power is still there. Mt. Lemon would be an interesting one as it's more of a TTer's climb.
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Re: Can Lionel S. Take Phil G.s MT Lemmon record [thatzone] [ In reply to ]
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Looks to me that Lionel has figured it out, or enough people around him have gotten through. He's very self-aware right now, so good on him.

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