windywave wrote:
ironmayb wrote:
windywave wrote:
ironmayb wrote:
windywave wrote:
ironmayb wrote:
windywave wrote:
mattr wrote:
I get what you are saying. Do you mean tone deaf looking at it from the blackface angle or the man with face mask âgirly/gayâ angle? Either way I think itâs people being too sensitive and reading into things when they arenât there. Seems like no one thinks of intent or context anymore before they make accusations.
He just says tone deaf without any support, probably because his position is indefensible when a scintilla of analysis is applied and he's chosen to die in this hill.
I'm just curious. What hill do you think I'm trying to die on here.
Do you think I believe these kids were being racist in what they were doing?
No I think you're being a prig with this tone deaf nonsense.
got it. Opinions vary
So what did the kids do wrong exactly. You still haven't said.
they didn't consider the fact that not everyone would interpret what they were doing as they had intended. They thought they were making a joke. Others interpreted that they had created a picture of a player on the other team wearing black face. It became a national story that we are talking about.
Perhaps your definition of that is "wrong".
My definition of that is "tone deaf" relative to what is going on in our country at the current moment.
I have also stated that, considering it is a national story that we are talking about, all parties involved thus far have handled it in a manner so as not to make the situation worse. Or other than what was intended
The only people who are wrong are the asshats who thought they created a blackface picture and their enablers and defenders. You're operating, erroneously, from the position of the kids were wrong whereas you should be operating from the position of those condemning and/or jumping illogical conclusions are wrong.
I'm operating from a position that, by definition, these kids didn't consider how this would be interpreted.
I believe the asshats are those who are specifically accusing them of what you say above and their enablers and defenders.
I believe, unless these kids intended to get into the controversy that exists, they were tone deaf relative to the picture they chose to use vs. the dozens of other creative things they could have done that would have not only had the effect that was intended but who's explanation would not be needed.