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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [cowboy7] [ In reply to ]
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What is the experience like on Zwift forvthose on dumb trainers ?

I've tried Zwift on a Wahoo but Ihave Tacx Blue Motion trainer ?

It's not bad. I was on a Cycleops Fluid for a few years with Zwift. I was much better climbing on the roads after my time with this set up-I was climbing moderate grades at a higher cadence.

My Fluid finally crapped out and I got a Direto on a good deal and the Zwift experience, overall, is better. If I had a good dumb trainer and didn't need to replace it, I wouldn't...

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [cowboy7] [ In reply to ]
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cowboy7 wrote:
What is the experience like on Zwift forvthose on dumb trainers ?

I've tried Zwift on a Wahoo but Ihave Tacx Blue Motion trainer ?

Like the poster above, I also did Zwift on a fluid trainer for a while. It's enough to keep you engaged on shorter workouts.

Now, experience not necessarily being worth it? I think it boils down to how nice a smart trainer you can afford. If it is one with good flywheel or virtual flywheel weight and responds quickly and accurately...........oh yeah it is worth it.

I got tired of with the dumb trainer not really being able to do group stuff and feel the draft effect. I'd just keep hitting it and bouncing fore-aft off the front person or few. Now with smart trainer, I can actually sit-in and stuff.

Also, even on a trainer with modest max % grade, it's a lot more fun to climb with a constantly changing resistance making your body be more dynamic to adapt to the changes in cadence, gearing, out of saddle, etc.....

My next upgrade will be a DIY rocker plate to make more than 90min physically less demanding on my rear end. If I fix that, I could see doing 2 and 3 hr rides indoors.

On the fluid? Never, Zwift or not, would I ride a fluid more than like 45min.

I also briefly had a wheel-on trainer in the Kickr Snap, but killed it in two rides. It was a refurb unit of the "bad years". Now on a new serial # batch Core direct drive, and that thing feels great even compared to the Snap. The Snap was good. But still, the direct drive is amazing. DCRainmaker says this also. That the direct drive just makes the experience.

I didn't want to fart around either with having to swap a trainer wheel around from road/TT bike all the time.

Also, the fluid caused issues because I own one power meter my road/TT bike share. Got tired of swapping it.
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [el gato] [ In reply to ]
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el gato wrote:
Any idea if/when Zwift running will show power on screen? It's frustrating to be running with a Stryd footpod, and have to have my Garmin 935 running in parallel to see power. I know that Zwift gets the data from the footpod because when the run is uploaded from Zwift to Strava and Training Peaks the power data is all in there. This has been a pretty highly requested feature on their forums, so I'm struggling to understand why it hasn't yet been added, as it seems ot be as simple as adding a data field on the screen (that already exists in cycling mode).

i'll ask.

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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman wrote:

i'll ask.

Thank you sir!
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Re: Zwift Ask (or Tell) Me Anything Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman wrote:
cowboy7 wrote:
What is the experience like on Zwift for those on dumb trainers ? I've tried Zwift on a Wahoo but I have Tacx Blue Motion trainer?

others can correct me if i'm wrong. obviously the experience gets better as the tech gets better. the absolute best experience i've had so far on zwift is on the Wahoo Kickr Bike. but that's top of the heap. i'm going to spend some time on both the Saris platform, and on the Tacx NEO Bike, which i just built up yesterday. and then i'll be prepared for some model-by-model shootouts.

below that - and by far the bulk of my experience - is just the typical smart trainer. you should be able to get those in the $700 to $800, and i believe, unless they're sold out, wahoo has a kickr refurb deal on right now in that price range. saris and wahoo, and elite, should all have deals of some sort in that price range if you nose around and are even a little patient.

dumb trainers, fine, assuming you don't max out the watts of the trainer. what you cannot do on that is to have zwift control the difficulty. you have to do that yourself, through gearing. in other words, you can't be riding along and all of a sudden it gets easier - without you changing gears - because the "road" on which you're riding begins to descend. what does happen, tho, is zwift senses the power you're producing, and if you make no change in your power then you'll speed up as the road pitches down.

what you'll need, tho, is a way to transmit your power to zwift. best way is via a power meter. but if you don't have a power meter on your bike, then there's the speed & cadence sensor. that's maybe $60, all in? that device makes a pretty good guess at your power, and that's what tells zwift what you're doing, which is translated to your avatar on zwift.

i have zero experience riding zwift on a dumb trainer. i suspect it's fine. much, much better than riding in front of reruns of the honeymooners.

Thanks Dan

I have to admit my Tacx is taking up space in the kitchen but has barely been used.

I've got a cadence sensor and the USB device.

I've spent ages poring over reviews but really not sure if even a smart trainer would also end up gathering dust !

Saris H2 are now about the same price as Suito

In the UK I think trainers have become scarce like toilet roll !
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