The"neater" solution is probably to use some of the two-part epoxy for carbon fiber with some glass bead. The other thing I was thinking of trying is the shrink sleeve from electronics applications. That has a rough texture and would look pretty custom

I'm officially stealing this idea.

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All this talk about making the bar suitable to no gloves got the gears turning. I had some NIB light foam MTB grips laying around. I have the DS bullhorn mostly done, but still needs a little more shaping. I'll likely finish this up tomorrow night and i'll post up some pics of how it turned out. As of now my intial impressions are that if no gloves tests faster, then this will be an accetable solution.

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I use POC's discontinued Aero TT Gloves due to their tight fit and long cuff. The long cuffs really help to make sure there's no gap between the Skinsuit arms and the gloves, i.e. no exposed skin. Northwave also makes aero gloves with longer cuffs.

Decided on this gloomy wet morning to shoot some video instead.

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Total aside, but what are the cups? Look like wattshop dirty aero. What angle?

Cheers mucker.
Rich.

Yeah, no worries. Those cups draw their inspiration directly from WattShop's Dirty Aero cups, but they're slightly different. They are Alden-Carbon and the angle is 15º. I've been pretty happy with them and it seems that Glen is pretty busy making more.

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Thanks mate! Will check those out, 15 degree looks good for me and I'm intrigued by the cut out which is a difference from the wattshop cups. That's your bike on Glen's page isn't it?!

It is. However, the bike looks a little different now.

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https://www.ebay.com.au/...271186926&chn=ps

I had found the same thing on Amazon. Have you used it before? If so, do you have thoughts on its effectiveness?

I'm actually liking the foam grips I modified. The increased girth of the bar is much more comfortable in my hand and the shaping on the rear of the grip gives a bracing point for my palm.

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Hockey tape. I don't like gloves.

Topic from the dead.....

Is that for real?

Almost 4w for hairless bare hands?

I’m not Chewbacca, but that’s nuts. Like, even if trimming that hair is just 2w.....that’s more than an ospw. And free.

Exactly! Imagine the wattage gains/loss for:
Beard / no beard
Hairy legs / shaved legs (and arms)

^also depending on the helmet and vent type, hair on your head.

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Shaved legs = 15 watt savings, apparently.
https://www.velonews.com/...-shaved-legs-faster/

This is why I'd like to learn what the inserts for my Tempor are for. One insert appears to keep the vent from directing air to your head somehow. That would suck on a hot day, but for 20min.......whatever. I may buy some disc wheel valve hole cover stickers in bulk to block the vents. They're the perfect size and not super tacky, just enough to remove and reuse them.

Also, the beard thing..........the Specialized Win Tunnel videos had it down to less than a watt. Or one second for 40k. Well within "noise" in my opinion.

Looks like I need to be trimming my hand hair using the electric beard trimmer and foil.

Did you catch my 2019 tunnel thread? my somewhat hairy hands tested faster than the AC gloves.

I just dug that thread up and it really doesn't show the difference between bare hands and gloved, clearly. So....

bare hands:
0º – 0.193 cda m^2
2.5º – 0.189 cda m^2
5º – 0.190 cda m^2

gloved:
0º – 0.194 cda m^2
2.5º – 0.194 cda m^2
5º – 0.191 cda m^2



Yeah, I don't think you're far off here. I've run a serious beard in the tunnel and no beard. not back to back, though.

ETA: put some data in there.

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