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Trump, Russia, Manafort ... Summary for those who don't follow this shit show
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Ok, I get the impression something significant just happened, but I can't figure out what. And what is Project Moscow?

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Re: Trump, Russia, Manafort ... Summary for those who don't follow this shit show [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]
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Michel Cohen (trumps old lawyer) admitted to lying to congress about the Trump orgs. connection with Russia. He said that they were trying to get a trump tower project during the Campaign and had direct connections with Russia (and trump, and his family knew about it). Cohen also said he lied to congress based on loyalty to trump and to keep stories straight.

This is big news for a couple of reasons:
1) shows direct connections with trump and russia (when trump said he had no connections). On top of everything else, this shows that trump has intentionally tried to obstruct justice.
2) probably means Jr. lied too when talking with congress.
3) It shows that Cohen is working with Mueller.

edit: other takeaways here are that A) Mueller has been talking with Cohen since August, B) none of this hit the press before today (shows Mueller is air tight). C) although trump conducting business before being the GOP nominee was not illegal, but why did he (along with others) repeatedly and continually say he had no business dealings with Russia ever? At the end of the day, Mueller's task was 1)finding coordination with russia with trump campaign (which before this, trump said didnt happen.), 2) how did that coordination impacted the election, 3) obstructing.

Trump has repeatedly said there was no coordination because there were no contacts with him and any Russian, they had no business dealings, etc. So at least publicly, we have been told trump has been lying about a major part of the investigation. This lying leads to showing intent about the obstructing of justice. (If trump knew of dealings, why did he repeatedly lie about them. It shows that he intended to lie).
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Re: Trump, Russia, Manafort ... Summary for those who don't follow this shit show [patentattorney] [ In reply to ]
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patentattorney wrote:
Michel Cohen (trumps old lawyer) admitted to lying to congress about the Trump orgs. connection with Russia. He said that they were trying to get a trump tower project during the Campaign and had direct connections with Russia (and trump, and his family knew about it). Cohen also said he lied to congress based on loyalty to trump and to keep stories straight.

This is big news for a couple of reasons:
1) shows direct connections with trump and russia (when trump said he had no connections). On top of everything else, this shows that trump has intentionally tried to obstruct justice.
2) probably means Jr. lied too when talking with congress.
3) It shows that Cohen is working with Mueller.

edit: other takeaways here are that A) Mueller has been talking with Cohen since August, B) none of this hit the press before today (shows Mueller is air tight). C)

Shit hitting the fan.
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Re: Trump, Russia, Manafort ... Summary for those who don't follow this shit show [patentattorney] [ In reply to ]
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patentattorney wrote:
Michel Cohen (trumps old lawyer) admitted to lying to congress about the Trump orgs. connection with Russia. He said that they were trying to get a trump tower project during the Campaign and had direct connections with Russia (and trump, and his family knew about it). Cohen also said he lied to congress based on loyalty to trump and to keep stories straight.

This is big news for a couple of reasons:
1) shows direct connections with trump and russia (when trump said he had no connections). On top of everything else, this shows that trump has intentionally tried to obstruct justice.
2) probably means Jr. lied too when talking with congress.
3) It shows that Cohen is working with Mueller.


Trump apparently in his written response, which is under oath, to Mueller claimed he had no knowledge of the Wikileaks DNC email release (with assist from the Russian government) nor had knowledge of the Trump Tower meeting with Don Jr. and Felix Sater to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

Pair the Micheal Cohen, Paul Manafort agreements with the statement of offense on Jerome Corsi, it leads one to conclude "colusion" and obstruction happened.

Not sure where Roger Stone fits, but methinks he's pretty much fucked, if he doesn't accept a plea deal. So is Don Jr.

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