Fizik is not fot those of us with wider feet.

I just don't get tri shoes with dual boa closure. Where are the time savings and benefits compared to road shoes? plush liner for sockless biking? is that all?

My feet are reasonably wide (11 E on running shoes), and I used 2 Fizik models for several years without any issues :
Road R3 (from 2014)
MTB model, entry level (from 2015, do not remember the name)

We got them into the shop I work at. Absolutely beautiful and incredibly comfortable. I haven't been able to wear Fizik shoes in the past because they are too narrow but these seem to have a different last, possibly. And I think the knit was awesome.

Any comparison to other popular brands? My Giro Factors this year were too narrow. Shimano has treated me well, but I really like the looks of the new Fiziks.

Probably more in line with Giro than Shimano. I generally find Giro a little narrow and Shimano fits nicely, but these Fiziks, without socks felt great.

Thanks!

Nice. Ive got several bike shops but no dedicated tri shop in my area so gonna be hard to try on a pair first.

Bumping this thread again -
Do you see much difference in the R3 and R1?
Is there any difference between them other than the knit and dual BoA? Is the internal comfort and materials the same?

I haven't tried the R1 but I can't imagine theres much of a fit difference. You might be able to get a better fit towards the top on the R1 since it has the dual boa. And there might be a little difference in the width since the R1 is knit and has more give. I know on the road R1 I can feel a difference in width between the standard version and the knit version. Money aside, I'd go for the R1 for the knit.