Pyrenean Wolf wrote:
Yes, that is why I wrote :
"For the same power, AND SAME RPM, more force needed..."
I know that
some people will avoid the additional force needed by increasing RPM (also true on fixie :-), that is why I also discussed RPM right after...
Not just "some people". I'll stop short of saying "all people", but I would certainly argue "most people"....and probably everyone here. We shift when our legs tell us "that's too hard, we can't keep this up for very long". Case in point, here is some data from me. Two rides, one on the road bike with 175mm, and one on my TT with 150mm. Both are 20min 90% IF efforts:
road (175mm): 5 September 2019, AvgPwr = 214 watts, AvgCad = 91 rpm, Speed = 21.1 mph, position=On-Hoods
TT (150mm): 9 October 2019, AvgPwr = 217 watts, AvgCad = 92 rpm, Speed = 24.7 mph, position=Full-Aero
I have no idea what gears I was in each time. I don't ride to a set cadence---Often I don't even have it displayed on my head unit. I simply select the gear that feels good at the time, for an effort level that my brain tells me I can hold for the remaining duration. I don't even ride to a set power---I ride to an effort level, and expect power to be in a certain range.
At 25mm difference, my TT cranks are 14% shorter than my road bike. That's a pretty extreme change by most peoples' standards. Yet, my power and cadence differ by 1/10th of that (~1.5%).
Yes, that's just one example---which does not a proof make. But, its a pretty extreme example of changes in bike, position, and crank length....which are indistinguishable when looking at power output and RPM.