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Re: Odd thing to do if you one a SUPER big Lottery [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
DavHamm wrote:
JSA wrote:
Something similar has been done in multiple states. In 2017, in North Carolina, a $50k lottery winner sold his ticket for something like $21k. The reasoning - the lottery winner owed back child support and back taxes, both of which would have been claimed from his winnings. So, he pulled an end-run and sold the ticket, then pocketed the cash. He was eventually caught, but, the North Carolina DOR says these private sales happen frequently with "smaller" amounts.

This is legal in NC, but, it is a crime in some states to sell a winning lottery ticket. So, one would have to check one's state prior to pulling this stunt. I have no idea what MI law says on the subject.


Cool some facts.. Interesting.

So now this raises 2 questions. If I win now, and Move to Florida in Dec and claim the ticket next Sept. Would I owe Michigan income tax?


Yes. The "income" was "earned" in Michigan. So, you will owe Michigan income tax on the lottery winning.

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Same story but auction it next oct? would this avoid the income tax? I doubt it I am sure they have some law that I would need to go back and amend my tax return, you never can escape the man.


I think there is a time limit on claiming the prize. I thought it was a pretty tight window - under 90 days. Might be shorter than that. Not certain, but, I do not think you could wait that long.

But, let's assume you can. The proceeds from the auction would be taxable income on the federal level. So, you would be required to report the proceeds as earnings. But, if you were a FL resident and held the auction in FL and received the proceeds in FL, you might be able to avoid MI tax. I am guessing there is something that would prohibit this, but, I can see an argument for avoiding MI income tax.

1 yr to claim your prize ... quick google
"How long do you have to claim the prize? Depending on where you bought the ticket, prize winners have between 180 days and one year from the date of the drawing to claim their prize. Check the back of your ticket."

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Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
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Re: Odd thing to do if you one a SUPER big Lottery [Crank] [ In reply to ]
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Crank wrote:
JSA wrote:
I think there is a time limit on claiming the prize. I thought it was a pretty tight window - under 90 days. Might be shorter than that. Not certain, but, I do not think you could wait that long.


It likely varies from state to state, but in California it's something like 180 days for non-jackpot winnings and a year for jackpot winnings, though if you wait longer than 60 days you forfeit the right to cash payout.

Here's a question for the group: What happens to the balance if you opt for the cash option? Who/what gets the rest of the ticket revenues?

There is no rest of the revenues. You get the present day value, of the Annuity that they would give you if you take the 30yr payout. Either option cost the lottery the same amount.

Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
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Re: Odd thing to do if you one a SUPER big Lottery [Crank] [ In reply to ]
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The state gets it. Lotteries are huge money-makers for states. All amounts not paid out goes to the state.


F*ck those dudes.

In Michigan anyhow any unclaimed prizes go into the School funds (of course its not enough to fully support schools so the general fund still gives school money, just with the lottery they now give it less money) It was a great swap that pissed a lot of people off when they did it after selling the lottery as funding education.

But as I said, there is no left over money from taking the lump sum.

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