With the Trump administration rolling back emissions standards, the U.S. auto manufacturers are wasting no time dumping their car lineups. Trucks and SUVs galore. Ford will have no cars except the Mustang for sale.

Ask the federal government for another $6 billion loan?

Im disputing your claim that CAFE standards are being rolled back.

Because they aren’t being rolled back.

If they were it would be really easy for you to demonstrate that by posting the numbers.

You aren’t doing that because the numbers don’t show any roll back.

And the Focus Active.It's a little bit SUV-y with a bit of crossover treatment - let's face it , it's a car.

Old: 54.5mpg fleet avg by 2025.

New: "On April 2, 2018, the Administrator signed the Mid-term Evaluation Final Determination which finds that the model year 2022-2025 greenhouse gas standards are not appropriate in light of the record before EPA and, therefore, should be revised."

This EPA hasn't yet announced what they are revised to, but it doesn't take much IQ to see what this administration will do.

A lot of truth but there are more Subarus than you can shake a stick at where I live. Mine has never let me down but I need to replace it. I wish Subaru would make a Crosstrek with more power.

We got a Frontier last year. Had many recommendations for a Ranger, but they didn't make it anymore. The F-150 doesn't fit in our garage so we couldn't do that even if we got that much truck. We love it so far but are only at 4,400 miles in 11 months so hard to know about durability.

With the Trump administration rolling back emissions standards, the U.S. auto manufacturers are wasting no time dumping their car lineups. Trucks and SUVs galore. Ford will have no cars except the Mustang for sale.

It will be interesting to see how much the new Ford Ranger cannibalizes sales of the F-150, but right now big-3 execs are just throwing a party for being able to sell more high margin gas guzzlers.

I expect by 2025, electric car technology will have advanced enough to render these standards largely irrelevant. Electric cars will be faster, cheaper and more reliable. There will still be specific use scenarios for ICE cars, but those will probably be hybrids anyways.

I don't think anyone would argue that in 8 years, electric cars will be faster, cheaper and more reliable than they are now. The same would be true for ICE vehicles as well, although the improvement curve will not be as steep for ICE cars. Technology very rarely goes backwards.

However, I am not sure how that gets you to CAFE standards will be irrelevant in 7 years. Electric car sales in 2018 are at best1.5% of total vehicle sales. Even if they could make astounding gains (say grow sales 50% per year, every year for next 7 years), they would only represent 20% of new vehicle sales and still only 5-10% of the operating fleet.

There have been huge government subsidies to get to this 1.5%, the subsidies cannot continue if sales increase. When the subsidies go away there will be a large impact on sales because without the subsidies, EVs are not competitive at all. You are also forgetting the infrastructure problem, sure there is lots of "free" charging available now (basically as a promotion). When charging eventually goes to fee based (as it must), there will be another large barrier to further growth.

Simply put, short major government intervention (mandating widespread EV use), electric cars will have to be objectively cheaper, higher-performance and or more desirable than ICE cars to gain significant market share. I don't see this happening in the next 10 years, .

When an electric vehicle can complete the Daytona 500 without replacing the batteries is when I will say ICE makers need to get worried. If I was a major ICE manufacturer I would lobby to let Tesla race in the Indy 500, because they would either DNF and/or have to make excuses about why they couldn't compete. Either scenario would be funny to see Musk's juvenile reactions.

EV will likely continue their improvement curve with European auto manufacturers moreso than Tesla. The driving requirements over there generally have less range anxiety because of their geography. And now their governments are breathing down their neck since Dieselgate.

EV will likely continue their improvement curve with European auto manufacturers moreso than Tesla. The driving requirements over there generally have less range anxiety because of their geography. And now their governments are breathing down their neck since Dieselgate.