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This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [fulla]
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Sweet video!
Of course they are more well rounded cyclists...they are better athletes in general.
The ITU field is so much deeper than the long course field.
Of course they are more well rounded cyclists...they are better athletes in general.
The ITU field is so much deeper than the long course field.
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [fulla]
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And yet he looks like a bumbling beginner compared to this lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgVuwStkycw
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [fulla]
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To be fair, there are also a number of long course guys who could do this. Sebi, Frodo, and Cam Wurf come to mind
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [HuffNPuff]
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HuffNPuff wrote:
And yet he looks like a bumbling beginner compared to this lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgVuwStkycwWhat's her FTP?
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [HuffNPuff]
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HuffNPuff wrote:
And yet he looks like a bumbling beginner compared to this lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgVuwStkycw
Is she a long course pro? :P
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [imswimmer328]
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imswimmer328 wrote:
To be fair, there are also a number of long course guys who could do this. Sebi, Frodo, and Cam Wurf come to mindAgreed, but doesn't Sebi mountain bike, wasn't Frodeno once an ITU athlete, and didn't Cam Wurf ride in the pro peloton at once?
The real comparison might be long course athletes that have never really dived into road racing or short course ITU racing.
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [CU427]
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If you're going to make that argument, richard murray did a 70.3 once. Regardless of what else they did/do, they're long course pros now.
I'd also love to see the long course guys make their own video on tt bikes
I'd also love to see the long course guys make their own video on tt bikes
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [imswimmer328]
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imswimmer328 wrote:
If you're going to make that argument, richard murray did a 70.3 once. Regardless of what else they did/do, they're long course pros now. I'd also love to see the long course guys make their own video on tt bikes
Keyword: Once
And that was AFTER years of developing his skills in the ITU circuit. Which seems to be the theme of the guys you mentioned above. They did long course AFTER short course, pro peloton, etc.
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [fulla]
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Proves what? Does a bear shit in the woods?
Of course a triathlete who comes from a swimming/running background who hasn't really ridden a bike much, and solely does so to ride a tri bike in broadly a straight line at low speed for 5 hours, will have poor bike handling skills.
Of course other athletes who ride bikes in a more dynamic environment, ITU, real bikes races, even recreational mountain biking, will have better bike handling skills.
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [tuckandgo]
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tuckandgo wrote:
Proves what? Does a bear shit in the woods?
Of course a triathlete who comes from a swimming/running background who hasn't really ridden a bike much, and solely does so to ride a tri bike in broadly a straight line at low speed for 5 hours, will have poor bike handling skills.
Of course other athletes who ride bikes in a more dynamic environment, ITU, real bikes races, even recreational mountain biking, will have better bike handling skills.
Calm down Francis
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [fulla]
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fulla wrote:
HuffNPuff wrote:
And yet he looks like a bumbling beginner compared to this lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgVuwStkycw
Is she a long course pro? :P
Is he a BMX competitor?
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [fulla]
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typical triathlete, can't even keep both wheels down. other dude sitting wrong way on bike. lordy.
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [buzz]
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Dude, I used to do all those tricks on my DB bmx bike in 6th grade. Nothing special. Makes me wonder if I can put pegs on a road bike
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [buzz]
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Tricks are always kind of odd when it comes to sports. Some pros and even average joes can do some interesting stuff. Then some pros, all they can do is do their sport and no tricks.
I'm sure there are world tour pros in the peloton who can't even wheelie (a certain GCN show presenter and former pro can't).
Remember this from way back in the day when Tiger was still da man:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oTMosZ76b8
Your average good high school player can do that but plenty of tour pros can't for some reason.
In his book Phil Gaimon said he couldn't bunny hop very well as a pro and crushed his balls once or twice during a race and was given grief by his team for "shit form".
I can't do bike tricks. I can bunny hop a little, the cross bike has taught that out of necessity.
I'm sure there are world tour pros in the peloton who can't even wheelie (a certain GCN show presenter and former pro can't).
Remember this from way back in the day when Tiger was still da man:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oTMosZ76b8
Your average good high school player can do that but plenty of tour pros can't for some reason.
In his book Phil Gaimon said he couldn't bunny hop very well as a pro and crushed his balls once or twice during a race and was given grief by his team for "shit form".
I can't do bike tricks. I can bunny hop a little, the cross bike has taught that out of necessity.
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros
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The skill set to race ITU is miles ahead of the skill set required to race 70.3 or IM racing.
Not just in the bike leg but the rest of the race as well.
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Not just in the bike leg but the rest of the race as well.
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Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [CU427]
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The real comparison might be long course athletes that have never really dived into road racing or short course ITU racing
Yes - I great example of this, would be Lionel Sanders. Lionel can develop incredible power on the bike. In fact if they gave out a prize for Power Outage on the bike at the IRONMAN World Championships, no doubt Lionel would be the winner of this.
However, of his own admission, a key and critical moment in last year's IM World Championship race was when both Wurf and Keinle got away from Lionel on the decent from Hawi. This is not a technical decent - the road runs more or less straight. It is not steep. However, what starts out as a tail wind as you roll out of Hawi and build up speed, turns into a gusting side wind, that can be really problematic if you have some doubts about your bike handling at speed, and are perhaps lacking a bit of confidence. Lionel lost a few minutes here, and then had to again of his own admission burn a few matches to make that time up when they were back on the Queen K! I note that in addition to his usual prodigious indoor bike training this year, he's been spending a bit of time, on a gravel road bike outdoors and working on his bike handling!
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
Yes - I great example of this, would be Lionel Sanders. Lionel can develop incredible power on the bike. In fact if they gave out a prize for Power Outage on the bike at the IRONMAN World Championships, no doubt Lionel would be the winner of this.
However, of his own admission, a key and critical moment in last year's IM World Championship race was when both Wurf and Keinle got away from Lionel on the decent from Hawi. This is not a technical decent - the road runs more or less straight. It is not steep. However, what starts out as a tail wind as you roll out of Hawi and build up speed, turns into a gusting side wind, that can be really problematic if you have some doubts about your bike handling at speed, and are perhaps lacking a bit of confidence. Lionel lost a few minutes here, and then had to again of his own admission burn a few matches to make that time up when they were back on the Queen K! I note that in addition to his usual prodigious indoor bike training this year, he's been spending a bit of time, on a gravel road bike outdoors and working on his bike handling!
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
Re: This proves it - ITU athletes are much more well rounded cyclists than long distance pros [Yeti racer]
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Yeti racer wrote:
Dude, I used to do all those tricks on my DB bmx bike in 6th grade. Nothing special. Makes me wonder if I can put pegs on a road bikeYeah, I agree. That was a little embarrassing. Also I hope the cool-guy hand gestures were performed jokingly rather than sincerely because it's cringe-worthy like watching geeks try to act cool at the jock party. Reminds me of this guy: