Except A) Frodeno lost once to Lange so far, on his worst-ever Kona performance - so if anything, Frodo is the "Scott" and Lange the "Allen", and B) I don't think Americans understand the prestige Frankfurt holds for German athletes.

Gomez only has one IM under his belt which went similar to Frodeno's first, so who knows. Frodeno wasn't quite the same calibre of ITU competitor, but that doesn't mean they'll be ranked similarly at the Ironman distance.

Doesn't Lange have a better run split (sure he broke the run split record) than Frodo last time Frodo won Kona?

I think Frodo would be very concered if he came out of T2 with Lange, I know for certain he would if he came out with Gomez.

Patrick Lange set the course record last year...he set the Kona Marathon record in '16 and his '17 marathon is the second fastest. So the idea that he shouldn't be favored to defend is kind of dumb.

If he's been deadlifting (which I believe he mentioned in a video), he's been doing upper body. And lower body. And whole body.


"Face of a vegan." Title if someone's (auto) biography sometime in the near future.


Of course not. All this vegan and body weight/BF% talk is the usual ST BS. To even engage would be madness. See them throwing all sorts of hypothesis for Frodo's mishap last year and ignoring that he was clearly (and admittedly) injured even before the gun went off. Shrug.


We know from their own accounts that with the US Postal diet of test and HGH Armstrong and Hamilton had to literally starve themselves and fill their stomachs with water to get by and hit their race weight. Good thing today's methods improved so much that athletes can be not only in race shape half 3 months off, but even year-round. Naturally.

Except he just lost head to head with Frodo at Frankfurt

Enlighthen me. Is it good to be that skinny so far out from Kona? Just thinking if it is increasing his risk of illness/injury?

Thank you for pulling random snippets used in running conversations mostly from page one out of a six page thread making them out of context and then adding your baseless opinions. Everything is now so much clearer...

I'm pretty sure he did a bunch of weightlifting before triathlon, but I'm not 100% positive. I did a bunch when I was younger to be a better sprint freestyler and was also ROTC (push up hell) and still carry around a lot of extra pectoral mass at age 45 that is stupid-looking when running .

Kids, don't do drugs. And don't do tons of upper body work to impress the ladies if you want to go pro in tri. It's all about the bike-run, not the swim. ;)

If it makes you feel better, I got destroyed by a 13 year old girl yesterday. . .

Motivation