Isn't this akin to, 40 years ago, Musk being interviewed on the news about the contraption his team built to attempt the rescue mission? He tweeted an update about what his team was doing, I really don't understand why that's a bad thing.

Further, he diverted engineers from SpaceX projects to build this, his teams spent considerable time, energy and resources to build and test this thing. He tweeted out progress updates - hell if I were Thai gov't official or involved in the rescue in any way I'd have been following Musk from the first tweet he gave out, isn't that a great way to provide updates?

If he just showed up with a bungee cord strapped to a rocket and then tweeted out to the world 'hey guys look what I brought, aren't I great' I can understand it, but they actually spent considerable time and energy to try and help.

I have a huge amount of genuine respect this guy. He's an oddball for sure so maybe he wouldn't be the life of your stag party or the guy that you'd want your sister to get involved with but he is certainly a visionary.

Thailand is not a litigious society it would be a shock if anyone thought to sue the coach. In fact the families will more likely forgive him and thank him for taking care of the boys. Yeah he probably should not have taken them into the cave but they'd been there before, it was a nice day and what group of energetic young boys isn't up for a bit of adventure? He will deal with the guilt of the situation and knowing that someone died helping to save them. That will be punishment enough.

Stay off Twitter. It's horrible.

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War is god

Leddy, you and FishyJoe called it 9 posts into this thread. I should have stopped there.

But instead I read on and listened to the experts who convinced me that it was unlikely that they would be able to bring all the boys out alive on scuba gear.

So why were the expert pessimists off base? Why didn't any of the boys panic and take out a diver with them?

I think an adult, taken off the street, is more likely than not to panic if extracted from the cave as the boys were. But the boys had spent 9 days in the dark and that had to toughen them up. Also perhaps adolescents more likely to trust the rescuers and less likely to panic.

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It doesn't really matter what Phil is saying, the music of his voice is the appropriate soundtrack for a bicycle race. HTupolev

They wrapped them up like a burrito and sedated them.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

I'm not sure to what level, be the boys were sedated.

And I also believe they were able to lower the water level significantly more than first thought, so reduced the time underwater compared to the time expected when the experts made their opinion.

I read a couple of different diving forums, and reports have them using full face masks and they were all lightly sedated. Also, seems the max depth was 16 ft. so they were reportedly using an 80%/20% O2 mix.

Well then, credit to TooSlow who said early on:


One account I read showed them wrapped in stretchers for the exit once they were out of the submerged sections. But I've not found clear reports on whether they were bundled up while submerged. Also some reports say anti-anxiety medicine, others say heavily sedated.

But before Randmart or WelchinPhilly beat me to it:

I wanna be sedated.

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It doesn't really matter what Phil is saying, the music of his voice is the appropriate soundtrack for a bicycle race. HTupolev

It is my understanding that they were stretchered for the entire rescue. Makes sense, they were weak/tired and panic is a real risk. I read that they were even ziplined over one section of particularly uneven ground.

So what I've learned is that If I am stuck in a cave but have internet, I will PM FishyJoe, Leddy, and TooSlow. Those three got it right here.

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It doesn't really matter what Phil is saying, the music of his voice is the appropriate soundtrack for a bicycle race. HTupolev

I got your back !

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"I think I've cracked the code. double letters are cheaters except for perfect squares (a, d, i, p and y). So Leddy isn't a cheater... "