zedzded wrote:
monty wrote:
Its ok you like a long John, just dont rationalize that it is just as fast as a full suit, it is not, never has been...
Brenton Ford did a 400m TT in bathers, sleeved and sleeveless. The sleeved was quicker by 7s. Which equates to 33s for a 70.3 swim. But that's a pro, with perfect technique in a pool, no wind, no swell, no waves, no current, no other competitors, no drafting. So yeah if you want to win an internet argument you just did. A full wetsuit is faster. What I'm saying is the difference is so low it's negligible. And as such other factors come in to play, such as comfort, mobility, stroke rate.
This goes to Monty too so I hope he seed this. We debate this all the time and Jarrod Shoemaker and I are always butting headings at Wednesday Open Water Worlds in Clermont. Sleeved is marginally faster for me until it is not, and then it is much much slower. The reason it is slower is because I overheat and once I overheat I am cooked, both on the swim and then on the bike and really the rest of the day.
Personal anecdote I went with a sleeveless one year at Ironman Wisconsin. It was before the new 72 degree pro rules and I think the stated water temp was 74, but there were pockets that were much warmer. I swam in a sleeved suit in practice and got hot so there was no way I was going sleeved on race day. On race day, there is another local pro, solid dude, and his name was up on the wall at the local high school pool as an "hall of fame" swimmer. He was a much better swimmer than I. On race day, I remember looking at him underwater and I could see his face was bright red (for a color blind person that is saying a lot) and I had no business swimming with him. His race was over in the water. He was cooked.
I have seen other pros get cooked as well in racing and I think TJ talked about this one year at I wanted to say Ironman Texas 70.3. Went on to the bike and had no watts. Regardless when it comes to testing, 400m TT is not really the type of test you need to do to simulate overheating. My guess is if we controlled the water temp and made him do a 3800m TT we might see some different results.
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