Yes, and I find that very questionalbe. With all the drafting and stuff courses should only get more challenging.

In that series there was also quite a bit of variety regarding the formats.

Apart from the traditional run-bike-run, usually as a sprint we have (had) the following races:

- A 26 km TT in the morning followed by a 7km run in the afternoon. The run was started in the order of the TT result and with handicap time. Like a pursuit in XC skiing or Biathlon.

- Intervallduathlon run-bike-run-bike-run

- A hilly run followed by a climb on the bike with a mountaintop finish. No second run.

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Their website seems to list quite a few interesting races. I have friends who have raced some of them and had good things to say. But this Powerman series seems like a mistake for 3-D. They are extending outside of Michigan, and leaning on local govt to do the work for them. If they stick to high-quality Michigan races they will be fine. But running an event in Hawaii, FL, AZ, etc? Bad idea. When an out-of-towner comes in and runs a race, I tend to not trust them.

They purchased and ran a race close to Tucson, AZ this year. The communication and marketing for the race was very poor but the race execution was great. I would do one of their races again. They really didn't start sending things out until 7-10 days before the race and it was filled with typos. The race was poorly attended. I was surprised they drove all the way from Michigan with all their own race stuff for maybe 80 participants? Maybe if the town is paying a lot, they don't need a well attended race?

What it seems you don't know is they used to run a lot of races in AZ. This was their winter home. At one point I think they had somewhere between 6-9 races between tri's and du's here in AZ years ago.

In fact some of their duathlons were among the most competitive in the country with numerous top ranked Ag groupers and some pros jumping in them

To label them out of towners is pretty naive as is saying races run by out of town people are bad ideas.

Many races (tri, running, bike races etc) are run by out of towners once you start peering behind the curtain.

3D's #1 issue with duathlon is their lack of advertising dollars they stick behind these events. If you're going to go big with duathlon you've got to probably stick an extra $5 per entry beyond what you'd do for triathlon into advertising for several years to get that event to grow compared to a triathlon. There are a few threads on this in relation to 3D if you want to go search the archives and get up to speed

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They did one in WV a couple years ago.

I agree - one of their tris was actually my first, I've done it twice since, volunteered once, will probably do one of their races later this year. I'd say this was a case of trying to scale too far too fast, but they've been around for a while.

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I did PM Frankenmuth long course last year and found it to be extremely well run. It was nice to have the focus completely on us duathletes for a change! However, it was definitely a race with small participation, especially the long course.

I would absolutely do it again but this year they moved it to the spring, which isn't good for me training, with my tax season workload.

I agree that duathlon is harder on the body than triathlon, having done both. My legs are absolutely fresh when I get on the bike in a tri, compared to them being almost trashed in a du. Triathletes don't want to admit that though.

I was hoping to have PM Colorado be my fall goal race this year if I could get my training volume up, but I guess the decision has been made for me. Disappointing.

You're not kidding. If you're in this thread and haven't read this yet, it's worth the click.

This explains everything.


...So...when and where are we going to host the Slowtwitch Multisport Championships? It sounds like the town of lyons is looking for a premier event to host.

thanks for posting that.. yes, asking the town to fund the race doesn't seem like a sustainable business model either..

from the doc,
"Overall it is a tremendous amount of staff time, resources and financial outlay for approximately 100 participants. Total expenses overall could be between $35K and $50K for the Town of Lyons."

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"It is a good feeling for old men who have begun to fear failure, any sort of failure, to set a schedule for exercise and stick to it. If an aging man can run a distance of three miles, for instance, he knows that whatever his other failures may be, he is not completely wasted away." Romain Gary, SI interview

Which of the *5* or *6* --(or maybe I was the only one?) whatever who signed up for this race, have actually gotten a refund yet?
I have an email from June 20 from Dani Anticuar at 3 Disciplines, (and I quote)..."We will be writing checks out to each individual and putting those in the mail asap!"

I just dropped a message to them from their website, as it is almost Christmas & I have not received a refund yet...which then led me to wonder how many on this Forum may have signed up & already received a refund? Anyone?

Additionally, Herbert--are you doing a follow up with Chris Leigh, or Powerman, as to Alex's above questions?

I reached out to him a while back and he promised to get back but has not.
Lesson is, do not write about races that have not yet happened.

Thanks for the follow up.