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Swim Slowdown - Fatigue Driven?
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Has anyone noticed a material slowdown in their swimming at the tail end of a training block? I assume it is due to cumulative fatigue, but I can't say that I feel any different in the pool than I did a month ago or so. My frequency and yardage have stayed pretty steady for the last 8-10 weeks (11.5-12K yds across 3-4 swims/week), and I cycle through the same 3-6 workouts over the course of the weeks, so I have good benchmarks from March/April. I am about 4-7 seconds slower per 100 scy, on what I feel is standard strong efforts.


I am racing Boulder next week, so starting to taper in hopes that I get some pop back next week. I had a "good" for me swim at ST George a few weeks ago, so I am not terribly worried; more curious than anything.
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Re: Swim Slowdown - Fatigue Driven? [milkman1982] [ In reply to ]
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milkman1982 wrote:
Has anyone noticed a material slowdown in their swimming at the tail end of a training block? I assume it is due to cumulative fatigue, but I can't say that I feel any different in the pool than I did a month ago or so. My frequency and yardage have stayed pretty steady for the last 8-10 weeks (11.5-12K yds across 3-4 swims/week), and I cycle through the same 3-6 workouts over the course of the weeks, so I have good benchmarks from March/April. I am about 4-7 seconds slower per 100 scy, on what I feel is standard strong efforts.


I am racing Boulder next week, so starting to taper in hopes that I get some pop back next week. I had a "good" for me swim at ST George a few weeks ago, so I am not terribly worried; more curious than anything.

My lap times in the pool are like the "canary in the coal mine" when it comes to overall fatigue.

Don't sweat it. After your taper, the times will be there.

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Re: Swim Slowdown - Fatigue Driven? [stringcheese] [ In reply to ]
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stringcheese wrote:
My lap times in the pool are like the "canary in the coal mine" when it comes to overall fatigue.

Amen to that! Its always the first to go. I can run or bike through it for a while and "force" an improvement. But, the swim just goes to shit as soon as I'm over-fatigued.
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Re: Swim Slowdown - Fatigue Driven? [milkman1982] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, it's called over-training. Triathletes do it all the time.

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Re: Swim Slowdown - Fatigue Driven? [SnappingT] [ In reply to ]
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SnappingT wrote:
Yeah, it's called over-training. Triathletes do it all the time.

We just drop the "over-", and call it training. Easier to ignore that way.
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SnappingT wrote:
Yeah, it's called over-training. Triathletes do it all the time.

great insight.. thanks.
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Re: Swim Slowdown - Fatigue Driven? [milkman1982] [ In reply to ]
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You're one step ahead of most triathletes in that you recognized something was off. The swim is going to show the fatigue the soonest of the three sports, but if you aren't adapting in one of the three do you think you are making an adaptation in the other two? So the only thing you're doing is increasing your risk of injury/illness and not making yourself faster for race day.

I don't know enough of what you're doing to give you any real insight, but in my experience your description of the swim is that you are overtrained. What you do from here is best left between you and your coach.

Hope this helps,

Tim

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Re: Swim Slowdown - Fatigue Driven? [milkman1982] [ In reply to ]
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I think your slowdown is within normal variance but for me I will at least have a "good" practice occasionally where I swim near the fast end of my range. You should insert a recovery practice into your training schedule. Do an ez warmup and then some kicking and stroke drills maybe do a short main set with some 25s or 50s and get out at about 2/3 of your normal yardage.
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SnappingT wrote:
You're one step ahead of most triathletes in that you recognized something was off. The swim is going to show the fatigue the soonest of the three sports, but if you aren't adapting in one of the three do you think you are making an adaptation in the other two? So the only thing you're doing is increasing your risk of injury/illness and not making yourself faster for race day.

I don't know enough of what you're doing to give you any real insight, but in my experience your description of the swim is that you are overtrained. What you do from here is best left between you and your coach.

Hope this helps,

Tim

I'm wondering if this happens with pure swimmers? I've never been a pure swimmer, but i can see how someone at competitive collegiate level could be training pretty hard and be going a little slower before they start competitions. Or does this not the case?
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Re: Swim Slowdown - Fatigue Driven? [cestmoi] [ In reply to ]
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Depends on what philosophy of coaching you subscribe to.

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Re: Swim Slowdown - Fatigue Driven? [cestmoi] [ In reply to ]
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Everyone is different. Ledecky recently set a world record and her teammate tweeted that they were doing hard practices right into the meet . For a 100 free sprint in season meets most top swimmers are going to be 1-2 seconds off their best time. Michael Andrew trains to swim his best at every meet but he has a specific training method that allows him to do this most other swimmers beat themselves up in practice for 3-4 months and then rest up to go fast at a big meet.
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