I'm running in both the ultra's & clifton 4's at the moment - find the Cliftons firmer & a bit more 'clunky' than the Ultra's. Can't say either of them are soft - the Ultra version 1 were softer & I preferred those for longer runs. U2's feel lighter - doubt I'll be getting more than 350miles out of a skechers however.

Try the GoRun Ride 7.

Really loved the Skechers for about 20 miles, then they were shot! Got another pair; same thing!

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''Sweeney - you can both crush your AG *and* cruise in dead last!! 😂 '' Murphy's Law

What do you mean by they were ‘shot’?

Can't speak for Sweeney, but the cushion on the 3 pairs I tried disappeared quickly. Maybe 20 miles is an exaggeration, but there was a noticeable drop in cushion on my pairs well below 100 miles.

Did a little over 9 miles right out of the box and in barefoot without issue. The Clifton has a pronounced arch rocker that one rides over, I don't have that sensation in the Ultra R2. Note: Skechers may have dropped the Ultra R2 model for the rest of 2018.

Interesting, I've had the opposite experience with my ultra2. At first they felt firm but after about 50mi they started to feel softer and more squishy.

x2 on that. Same with the Clifton 4, but they're still a bit wooden feeling even with 200miles on them.

And they got lumpy feeling. If twenty miles was an exaggeration, it still wasn't more than 30. I used them only for sprint and olympic races. I liked how easy it was to get them on. I didn't like that they did't last a season of sprints.

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''Sweeney - you can both crush your AG *and* cruise in dead last!! 😂 '' Murphy's Law