BobAjobb wrote:
sonofdad wrote:
Bringing back an old thread, as I have tried some of the fixes mentioned and am still having he same problem.
Aluminum Bayonet 3, version 3 clamp (version 1 snapped last year). I have it torqued well past spec and the right one is still slipping. Tape under the clamp. Bolts are correct. All the washers are in. I haven't tried grease the bolts yet, as I forgot about that suggestion from Jim. I have had the threads on the "8" shaped threaded nut that is under the clamp strip a couple of times due to how tight I am torquing the bolts...
Any updates on fixes/ideas?
Only comment/ observation - greasing the threads will make stripping the nuts even more likely.
When a bolt is torqued, its to get the right tensile load ('end load') in the bolt. Torque (twisting) to a defined vslue is just a means to an end. Grease the threads... less friction in the threads = more end load in the bolt for a given torque.
Great in that it clamps the bar better as a result of more tensile load in the bolt. But also more load trying the shear the threads out of the nut.
(One failing by manufacturers is they often don't specify what condition the bolt should be in vs the specified torque. Clean and dry ? Just as-is from the box ? Greased ? Oiled ? Or something else ? Each gives a different end load for the same torque).
Your reply caught my eye since just a few days ago I sheered the seat post clamping wedge bolt for my Slice, and I wonder whether torqing while dryer would created higer sheer forces than if threads were lubed?
I didn't used to have good quality (read any) bike grease and have improvised with other lubricants (flame away), but this wedge assembly has been dropped each time the bike was packed for flying, where I'd wipe it to get crud off and so I was essentially using it un-to-poorly greased. It's also scratched, I assume from the carbon paste that I didn't realize should not touch it. Is scratching the problem there, or does that product lead to bolt / thread corrosion?
So I've wiped the front of the seat post trying to clear paste from that area and greased the new wedge faces and bolt with HPG-1. BUT I've also come to fear my torque wrench is out of whack, possibly torquing higher than set. Any ideas on how I can check the calibration of my wrench?
Thanks in advance!
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