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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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slowguy wrote:
Uncle Arqyle wrote:
Sanuk wrote:
Why would he have to do this? Why would he have to explain anything? Just because he used the same lawyer as Trump? Not defending him just doesn't make sense to me.

If Hannity is on Fox and loudly defending Cohen, wouldn't it be fair to advise people about his relationship with him?

At a minimum, he likely had to disclose that to Fox.




Why? Its a talk show. Big Fucking Deal. The guy is a known trump voter and supporter. He doesn't have a duty to disclose anything.

He certainly has an ethical duty to disclose to both his employer and his viewers that he has a personal and/or business relationship with one of the subjects of his coverage. To his employer, so that they are aware and can plan for any fallout if the relationship is discovered, and to his audience so that they understand why he's covering the issue the way he does.

He can claim to be a "host" and not a journalist all day long, but he works for FoxNEWS.

Let’s be clear here. The people on here that act like they don’t understand why Hannity is in the wrong here would flip the fuck out if Rachel Maddow and Hillary Clinton shared a lawyer.

They are being quite disingenuous.

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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [Uncle Arqyle] [ In reply to ]
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Why? Its a talk show. Big Fucking Deal. The guy is a known trump voter and supporter. He doesn't have a duty to disclose anything.

Because he would be moving from a conservative pundit to a spokesman for the Whitehouse and for anyone who actually takes him seriously, is something he should disclose.

The bigger problem is that we don't know the extent of the relationship and the fact that he purposefully hid it, can be seen as they have something to hide.If you were his employer, wouldn't you want to know that?

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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [orphious] [ In reply to ]
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orphious wrote:
But I dont think that means he would be drug into court and asked to explain.. Unless he was involved with what ever they have on Trump...

I think you mean Cohen. I think this transfer from the Federal investigation to a state court and prosecutor indicates that that they think the Cohen committed a crime that would be prosecuted independently of the Mueller investigation. It's conceivable that Trump may not be involved at all - though probably far more likely that he's at least a witness or something.

You're right, though, that Hannity may have zero role in any further court proceedings.
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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [Uncle Arqyle] [ In reply to ]
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Uncle Arqyle wrote:

Why? Its a talk show. Big Fucking Deal. The guy is a known trump voter and supporter. He doesn't have a duty to disclose anything.



But the "revenge porn" post above has a point. This is just delicious revenge porn payback to Hannity. Taking some leaked tidbits and then weaving vast criminal conspiracy theories involing the interplay between media elites, government elites, and their elite lawyers, and how the is exactly how Hannity established himself as a personality.

It's not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun.
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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Sanuk wrote:
Why? Its a talk show. Big Fucking Deal. The guy is a known trump voter and supporter. He doesn't have a duty to disclose anything.

Because he would be moving from a conservative pundit to a spokesman for the Whitehouse and for anyone who actually takes him seriously, is something he should disclose.

The bigger problem is that we don't know the extent of the relationship and the fact that he purposefully hid it, can be seen as they have something to hide.If you were his employer, wouldn't you want to know that?

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“While Fox News was unaware of Sean Hannity’s informal relationship with Michael Cohen and was surprised by the announcement in court yesterday, we have reviewed the matter and spoken to Sean and he continues to have our full support.”

Nothing to see here, move along.

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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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I just assume journalists have underlying bias and conflicts of interest. I gave up on the idea they are objective a long time ago. Here in Canada I have to put up with the national tax funded broadcaster being all about only one side of the political spectrum .

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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [len] [ In reply to ]
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len wrote:
I just assume journalists have underlying bias and conflicts of interest. I gave up on the idea they are objective a long time ago. Here in Canada I have to put up with the national tax funded broadcaster being all about only one side of the political spectrum .

That's a bit of an extreme position. But then consider the National Post or even the Globe and Mail. They tend to be pro conservative.
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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Sanuk wrote:
Why? Its a talk show. Big Fucking Deal. The guy is a known trump voter and supporter. He doesn't have a duty to disclose anything.

Because he would be moving from a conservative pundit to a spokesman for the Whitehouse and for anyone who actually takes him seriously, is something he should disclose.

The bigger problem is that we don't know the extent of the relationship and the fact that he purposefully hid it, can be seen as they have something to hide.If you were his employer, wouldn't you want to know that?

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“While Fox News was unaware of Sean Hannity’s informal relationship with Michael Cohen and was surprised by the announcement in court yesterday, we have reviewed the matter and spoken to Sean and he continues to have our full support.”

Nothing to see here, move along.

Awww, I guess they forgot the "But Hillary...!"
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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [OneGoodLeg] [ In reply to ]
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OneGoodLeg wrote:


Awww, I guess they forgot the "But Hillary...!"


Today there was a letter from 11 GOP Reps. demanding Sessions investigate Hillary, Lynch, Comey, McCabe, Sally Yates, Dana Boente, Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page.

Not sure why they didn't also include Rosenstein and Mueller.

Can Sessions investigate himself?
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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [len] [ In reply to ]
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len wrote:
I just assume journalists have underlying bias and conflicts of interest. I gave up on the idea they are objective a long time ago. Here in Canada I have to put up with the national tax funded broadcaster being all about only one side of the political spectrum .

Of course everyone has biases, conflicts of interest are a different matter. That's why in a lot of situations you are required to notify about conflicts of interest. I've never seen a situation where you are asked to reveal your biases.
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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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My gut is still that Hannity wasn't really a client. I'm guessing Cohen was fishing for reasons that someone innocent would be irreparably harmed by the things that were seized and he remembered he talked to Sean about that thing that one time. And Sean said, "don't tell them about that, I don't want you to claim me as a client, your job is to cover up dead hookers."

But Hannity looks incredibly bad when it comes out now after railing against the raid in the first place.

Wait, he wasn't really a client? Then this is meaningless because then none of the documents seized would mention Hannity, since he is not a client. And if there are documents, then they are clearly not protected by attorney client confidentiality, because he is not client.

But then why did Choen say he only had three clients? Seems like Cohen could have just said that he had two clients (both of which he paid off people to hide embarrassing information), unless he was worried that he would get caught lying when it came out he had three clients?

Hannity has already said that Cohen dealt "almost exclusively" with real estate matter for him. Now why would he say that if he was not a client? And also, why say "almost exclusively", so there were other things.

All the evidence points to Hannity being a client.
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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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Hannity has already said that Cohen dealt "almost exclusively" with real estate matter for him.

And now there's news of some interesting real estate deals.

20 shell companies. HUD loans. Phew. Possibly nothing illegal about all that, but it looks pretty slimy, going to the gubmint trough to become a filthy rich, all why proselytizing against the gubmint trough.

This could be what was meant about the revelation of the relationship with Cohen being "embarrassing," if Cohen was involved with the legal aspects of those 20 companies. And naming all those companies with variations of the initials of your children? Sheesh. Every child dreams about having a shell company named after them, right?
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Re: Sean Hannity, what is going on here? [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
j p o wrote:
My gut is still that Hannity wasn't really a client. I'm guessing Cohen was fishing for reasons that someone innocent would be irreparably harmed by the things that were seized and he remembered he talked to Sean about that thing that one time. And Sean said, "don't tell them about that, I don't want you to claim me as a client, your job is to cover up dead hookers."

But Hannity looks incredibly bad when it comes out now after railing against the raid in the first place.

Wait, he wasn't really a client? Then this is meaningless because then none of the documents seized would mention Hannity, since he is not a client. And if there are documents, then they are clearly not protected by attorney client confidentiality, because he is not client.

If Hannity was not a client, these would all be correct

But then why did Choen say he only had three clients? Seems like Cohen could have just said that he had two clients (both of which he paid off people to hide embarrassing information), unless he was worried that he would get caught lying when it came out he had three clients?

Above I said my theory was he was trying to prevent use of the documents based on irreparable harm to an innocent third party. I also said it was a fairy tale pulled from my rectal region. Pure speculation based on shenanigans I have seen other lawyers unsuccessfully use. You try these things when you have no other option

Hannity has already said that Cohen dealt "almost exclusively" with real estate matter for him. Now why would he say that if he was not a client? And also, why say "almost exclusively", so there were other things.

'Exclusively almost' is my new favorite term. I exclusively almost have sex with you honey. I exclusively almost tell the truth. I exclusively almost am careful to not steal other people's money.

My initial thought was he had never used Cohen as an attorney, but had talked with him as they were friends and he had made the joke of giving him a ten and saying now we have privilege. Again, pure speculation. That may still be the truth, but It is looking more likely that there is a tangled web involved.


All the evidence points to Hannity being a client.

It is looking more and more like that, yes.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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