Des went through a dark spot and after bridging back up with Flanagan came around. //

Honestly I dont think she really ever came out of that dark spot, it was just that everyone in front of her quit or blew sky high. She ran a very pedestrian time, especially as compared to the mens winning time, and the funny part is no one was even close for 2nd!! They both just ran what they could and on this day just finishing in ok shape won you a lot of money. She is a much more class runner than Kawauchi, but it seems the men had an even harder time than the women.


Like I said, this would have been a good day I believe for a lot of triathletes, no doubt that the Brownlees would have thrived in this weather, along with a to of other pro Tri folks. I mean it looked like amatuer hour out there looking at everyone with their various kits on. Have world class runners never run a race in this kind of weather before? It was crazy, what ever happened to tights, head band and long sleeve poly pro? All they had for back up was a wind breaker from the 1970's? All their closing sponsors should be shot, it was absolutely unprofessional. And it cost most everyone their race too, like it was the Antarctic marathon or something. Not just some rainy day in spring, jeeesh!!

She is a much more class runner than Kawauchi, but it seems the men had an even harder time than the women.

Spoken like someone who doesn't know his history..... I think ST needs a write up of Mr citizen runner

Its fascinating how much conditions can play a part.


I only saw a few pictures and listened to a few post-race interviews, but I was really surprised to see what some of the top runners were wearing.

- Big billowing rain jackets in a head wind race!

- Completely bare legs

- Nothing on their heads - no tuques

It appears many of the race favorites succumbed to and suffered in the conditions. Those jackets that more than a few were wearing at the start, were acting like parachutes holding them back. Look to cycling for more form-fitting (aerodynamic or less wind grabbing) garments!

With air temps where they were and the wet conditions, they should have thought more about keeping the legs covered, and borrowing again from cycling and using some embrocation treatment before to help keep the legs warm

25% - 30% of heat loss is through the head - wear a tuque.

I spent many a winter in Vancouver running in wet and 0C - 5C conditions. Always ran in full tights or half-tights with knickers with a brushed inner surface to provide a bit more warmth and wicking - leg muscles are generating large amounts of heat so moisture moves well from skin to outside.

On upper body a skin tight stretchy thinner fleece material is best next to skin, and then some form of close fitting, windbreaker like vest over that that is vented well in the back, thin gloves/mittens and a tuque. In conditions like that, you are NEVER going to stay dry and the game is controlling the environment right next to your skin as best as you can. A thin micro-fleece moves great amount of moisture from inside to outside. A good amount of heat can be moderated by taking tuque on and off, and when off just stuffing it in the waist-band of your tights

Molly Huddle in 4th place with a couple miles to go, thought her glasses were fogging over then remembered she wasn't wearing glasses, that was her vision going in the cold.

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=6610044#p6610044

https://deadspin.com/...g-winners-1825293545

• He’s a government employee in Japan who doesn’t run professionally and has a full-time job.
• This was at least his 71st competitive marathon since the beginning of 2012—averaging just under one a month. Overall, he’s run in at least 81 marathons.
• He’s run 26 of them faster than 2:12 and 79 of them under 2:20. Both of those numbers are world records.
• In January, Kawauchi ran a 2:18:59 marathon in Marshfield, Massachusetts in one-degree weather. He was the only finisher.
• That race gave him the most marathons ever run under 2:20; he finished two more between then and Boston. (Obviously he was the only one of his competitors to have already run a marathon this year. Today was his fourth of 2018.)
• The NYPD mysteriously clipped him in the 2014 New York City Marathon.
• Today in Boston he beat defending world and Boston champion Geoffrey Kirui, and defending Chicago champion and all-around stud Galen Rupp. No one finished within two minutes of him.

definitely not just a rainy spring day though, windchill in the 20s with pouring rain is hypothermia city. Shalene said she bit her tongue at mile 6, her teeth were chattering so hard.. Molly Huddle in 4th place with a couple miles to go, thought her glasses were fogging over then remembered she wasn't wearing glasses, that was her vision going in the cold..


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I note that in cycling the rule is generally cover the legs up when the temperature is below 15C to 18C. For running, historically I moved that down by about 5C so I would be looking to cover the legs either with full tights or half or knicker tights at 10C or lower.

The below data is based on the preliminary results of The 2018 Boston Marathon. The conditions were miserable. The wind was strong and the rain/sleet was challenging. Last year was a scorcher. The results were surprisingly similar for those that finished.

Relative to their qualifying times, Women performed better in Boston in 2018 as well as in 2017.

Desi is an Olympian who has finished 2nd at Boston previously losing by a mere two seconds. To say she’d be an anonymous in the pack finisher is not even close to accurate.

Fleck, I was thinking along the same lines. The jacket that Kirui (2nd place) wore was like a parachute, had to create a tremendous amount of drag. Over 26 miles, and with that headwind, must have been quite the disadvantage. If we were wacthing Kona, and someone had a loose jersey on during the bike we would jump all over them. Yet, these are the best in the marathon world, and those were the choices .... of course I could never even be in the same neighborhood as them :-)

As I was starting my swim today I wondered if wearing a silicone swim cap would have been a good choice with a fabric beanie over that.

Kawauchi recently ran and won a half marathon in his home town wearing a full panda suit.

Kawauchi recently ran and won a half marathon in his home town wearing a full panda suit.

Kawauchi recently ran and won a half marathon in his home town wearing a full panda suit.