The problem with Badgers like you is you misapply the term weak effort. That was not a weak effort and I have never called it a weak effort. You admit that for me it was a week's effort, yet you Badger brethren call it a weak effort.

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Thanks for your informed view.

Interesting that no-one responded to your post. I guess it doesn't fit certain people's narrative.

The worst? A shotgun loaded with deer shot. One round sends out multiple projectiles and could clear a hallway in a whole lot less rounds than either a rifle or pistol. But shotguns are not a scary looking, until one is looking down the barrel. Then a shotgun becomes a lot more scary than some wimpy AR!

I would rather have either one of the below than an AR-style weapon, under the conditions you describe (disclosure: I have the first one illustrated, a Mossberg 500, and have had one for years. No home should be without one, in fact.)





This second one (the Benelli M4) is a semi-automatic shotgun with a 6-shell (5 +1) magazine capacity, which can be increased through a magazine extension. So what are the gun controllers going to do next? Ban shotguns?



I like this gun bed, too. ;-)

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If you were able to reduce and control the number of guns in circulation such that it became extremely difficult for a teenager or irresponsible person to get their hands on a gun and certainly on any kind of semi-automatic or automatic weapon, then I would expect to see shootings drop dramatically, in line with countries that have low gun volumes and strong gun controls. I don't believe that American teenagers are inherently more homicidal than European teenagers and would simply find other ways of carrying out mass killings (knives, trucks, homemade bombs, etc). I think the relatively easy availability of guns is the single most important factor behind why America has regular mass killings in schools and Europe doesn't.

Problem of course is that with >300 million guns estimated to be in circulation, it would be a gargantuan task trying to get them under control and there's nothing like the mass support needed to make it happen.

He used a Bushmaster AR-15 with an EOTech red dot. It is probably fortunate that was his weapon of choice. If he used a Tikka T3 .308 (hunting rifle) with an actual scope, for example, he would have done FAR more damage. Fortunately, what he used was far, far less effective.

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