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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [VinKiesl] [ In reply to ]
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Regarding the low bento/nutrition box for the regular CF
Via local (Netherlands) Canyon support I (think/hope I) ordered the low version of the nutrition box; apparently you need two parts, the rubber outside and a plastic internal box.

One of these parts is labeled: CAYN Storage Shell E431-16
other one I don't know (I don't see the item-nr in my order status, just that there is an item)
combined price is around €15

Items are not in the webshop, so I would advise to call your local support team.
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [onceatriathlet3] [ In reply to ]
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I have the ultimate stem on my CF 8.0 Di2 (medium). I also have it paired with the aeria hydration system. Will post pics soon



onceatriathlet3 wrote:
Has anyone tried to put this stem on their Canyon? I was just curious because I know Canyon uses their own stem, but it looks like it might fit just from photos.
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [Alteisen] [ In reply to ]
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Alteisen wrote:
70mm stem: 214g = 168g (body including 2 screws) + 33g (front with 4 screws) + 13 (head plug with screw)
90mm stem: 238g = 192g (body including 2 screws) + 33g (front with 4 screws) + 13 (head plug with screw)

Excellent, thanks !!!!
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [JTNY] [ In reply to ]
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JTNY wrote:
I have the ultimate stem on my CF 8.0 Di2 (medium). I also have it paired with the aeria hydration system. Will post pics soon

I am having this stem put onto my Ceepo Katana. Was interested in they hydration system. Would love to hear your thoughts on it.
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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Off topic, but why isn't the 8.0 available in the U.S. along with the 8.0 SL? I can't be alone in loving the Canyon but not needing another set of race wheels. Drop the $1000 off the 8.0 SL price and remove the race wheels like you do on the European versions and you'd probably already have my money.
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [JTNY] [ In reply to ]
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I'd love to see them! Did you just change the stem or did you have to remove the spacer as well?
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [JTNY] [ In reply to ]
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JTNY wrote:
I have the ultimate stem on my CF 8.0 Di2 (medium). I also have it paired with the aeria hydration system. Will post pics soon



onceatriathlet3 wrote:
Has anyone tried to put this stem on their Canyon? I was just curious because I know Canyon uses their own stem, but it looks like it might fit just from photos.

Hi,

does anyone know how much steerer tube is protruding /of its original length with Canyon stem and a spacer/ after your install PD AU stem? Or you just put a PD top cap and tighten it down?

CanyonJay - you mentioned some "intervention" with a file/Dremel to file the spacer...What exactly did you mean? Photos pls. !!


Many thanks.
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [xoslic] [ In reply to ]
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I dont have PD stem, just the regular Canyon but removed the spacer in this is how it looks. Bare in mind, that if you don't cut the steerer you have to use other spacers so the top cup will actually hold something.
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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Do you think that it would be possible to adapt the PROFIL DESIGN Aeria hydration at the original Canyon stem of the CF Speedmax (with Dremel !) or impossible because the stem profiles are really different.
Thank
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [Leratz06210] [ In reply to ]
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Or another model or brand but lighter than the Aeria from PROFIL DESIGN
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [Leratz06210] [ In reply to ]
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Leratz06210 wrote:
Do you think that it would be possible to adapt the PROFIL DESIGN Aeria hydration at the original Canyon stem of the CF Speedmax (with Dremel !) or impossible because the stem profiles are really different.
Thank

Not possible - the mounting system for the hydration requires the stem to be specifically designed for it


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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [Leratz06210] [ In reply to ]
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I disagree. It's possible. A German pro had it attached to her TriRig Alpha X. Today in Cozumel I saw another pro with it attached to a different stem as well.

Also, a profile design rep on ST said they are working on a much lighter stem that may arrive this summer
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [BigBoyND] [ In reply to ]
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You realize the guy who said it isn't possible is the profile design engineer on slowtwitch right?
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [imswimmer328] [ In reply to ]
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In fairness, anything is possible if you have a drill or skill with carbon.
So my statement should have been 'not possible with any standard parts'


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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [imswimmer328] [ In reply to ]
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imswimmer328 wrote:
You realize the guy who said it isn't possible is the profile design engineer on slowtwitch right?


Oops I did not! I'm an idiot, sorry.

But my statement stands. He said they have a lighter stem coming so I would either wait or get the heavy one for now and then swap.

I haven't seen how it was done on the Alpha X. The bike I saw this weekend looked like it might have used double sided tape or something. It was attached at the top of the stem only because the stem was much thinner. It's doable with some DIY
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [BigBoyND] [ In reply to ]
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I do not understand how it is possible to propose such a heavyI'm always looking for a way to install a I'm always looking for a way to install a hydration system on my Speedmax CF
I ve found this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pRb0IF5_1A
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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I still don't quite understand what is necessary to install the Aeria Ultimate stem and bottle.
Maybe you or someone else can clarify for me.

Do you need to remove the 25mm spacer under the stem in order to install the hydration system? If so do you need to cut the steerer in this case?

Thanks!
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [cmart] [ In reply to ]
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You only need the Aeria stem AND bottle, together. The stem has a c-channel receiver bolted into the base of the stem. it's here that you slide the bottle in and affix it. There's no way to retrofit it to any other stem; the two go hand-in-hand.

So you don't need to remove the spacers in any way. The Profile Design website shows the two units, but there's not really any visual as to how the two interface. You simply replace a stock stem with the Profile stem, slide the bottle onto the bottom of it until it clicks into place (it's easy to remove with the release tab) and that's it. Super easy.

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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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CanyonJay wrote:
You only need the Aeria stem AND bottle, together. The stem has a c-channel receiver bolted into the base of the stem. it's here that you slide the bottle in and affix it. There's no way to retrofit it to any other stem; the two go hand-in-hand.

So you don't need to remove the spacers in any way. The Profile Design website shows the two units, but there's not really any visual as to how the two interface. You simply replace a stock stem with the Profile stem, slide the bottle onto the bottom of it until it clicks into place (it's easy to remove with the release tab) and that's it. Super easy.

Cool, thanks!
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [cmart] [ In reply to ]
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The Aeria Ultimate Stem V2 on the Profile Design website here: https://profile-design.com/...-aeria-ultimate-stem
Shows that it has 12.2 Angle.

The 2019 Canyon Speedmax CF Size Medium comes with a stem V21, 80mm, Angle -17 degrees.

Is it correct that I can remove the Canyon V21 80mm stem and use the Aeria Ultimate 70mm (or 100mm) Stem V2 and it will be the same angle?
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [st001rtg] [ In reply to ]
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Good question, I don't know though. I don't have the Aeria as of now. Maybe someone else can answer this. Try replying to canyonjay
Last edited by: cmart: Feb 16, 19 22:43
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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [st001rtg] [ In reply to ]
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st001rtg wrote:

Is it correct that I can remove the Canyon V21 80mm stem and use the Aeria Ultimate 70mm (or 100mm) Stem V2 and it will be the same angle?

The number you're looking at for the AU stem is the stack from base of the stem to the bar centre. Angles don't work so well for the dropped stem designs like AU or Syntace Flatforce.
The Canyon stem is fairly tall for a -17 so you'll be looking at ~15mm lower with the AU stem (I don't have the exact numbers to hand)


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Re: Aeria Ultimate stem on Canyon CF [cyclenutnz] [ In reply to ]
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cyclenutnz wrote:
The number you're looking at for the AU stem is the stack from base of the stem to the bar centre. Angles don't work so well for the dropped stem designs like AU or Syntace Flatforce.
The Canyon stem is fairly tall for a -17 so you'll be looking at ~15mm lower with the AU stem (I don't have the exact numbers to hand)

There does seem to be a typo in the product description on your website:
"Length: 70, 100mm (-12° only)"

It says the same next to stem length in the product selection button.

But then in the pictured diagram it shows 12.2m mm stack and 17 degree angle.
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