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is this a sports car?
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http://www.evo.co.uk/...rburgring-lap-record

that lap is amazing. what an amazing piece of engineering

I also saw a camaro is going for a sub 7 round there, that would be equally amazing, that would be quick no matter what.
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Re: is this a sports car? [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]
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Supercar to me. But, if it isn't street legal then race car.
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Re: is this a sports car? [loxx0050] [ In reply to ]
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I'd label it as a hypercar, like the article says. It's not street legal, but it seems like it's not built for racing, so much as technological accomplishment, testing, and study for raw speed.

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Re: is this a sports car? [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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I am aware. There are car manufacturers that specifically build or tailor a "special edition" car just for the "ring" to set a record lap time. Still pretty cool though.

There is a video feed you can watch for the Nurburgring where you can see who is in line with their cars buying lap tickets (like a toll booth drive through actually). You'll see a variety of vehicles (exotics, mundane passenger cars, tourist buses, whatever). Don't know if it is still up though but I remember watching it at random times many years ago.
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Re: is this a sports car? [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]
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It used to be that people raced production cars.

Then they slightly modified production cars for racing.

Now they rebuild production cars into full blown race cars.

Or in the case of the Ford GT, design a race car, and make some road legal versions. (Although Porsche was the first to do this with the 911 GT1)

The big difference with this car, is that (IIRC) it was on race slicks, not street tires.
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Re: is this a sports car? [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, their cited weight for the LaFerrari is hilariously low. Car & Driver weighed it as part of their instrumented test--3489 lbs (1585 kg). Motor Trend weighed it at 3495 lbs.

Also, I hate when marketing types describe cars as "no-compromise." Every car is a compromise: pickup trucks compromise packaging, weight, and efficiency for the ability to carry lots of stuff; minivans compromise looks and driving dynamics for the ability to carry lots of people; and cars like the Nio compromise aerodynamic efficiency for reduced lift, passenger space for huge motors and a small profile, and price for exclusivity and development. Especially bothersome when he points to two major compromises to assert it's a "no-compromise car, in terms of strength-to-weight [it would have been much lighter without batteries and with a conventional ICE drivetrain while making as much power. See: Koenigsegg Agera] and packaging [it only seats two people and has no cargo space]."
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Re: is this a sports car? [spudone] [ In reply to ]
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spudone wrote:
Also electric cars like this that are simply trying to beat the Nurburgring lap time, usually have very little range. Both due to the way they use power, and the need to lower weight.

I'd call it a track car until they get a street legal version out there.

^^ Just like the Croatian Electric car that Hammond drove and crashed on Grand Tour. He had to recharge every 100 miles or so but damn that thing was fast.

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Re: is this a sports car? [spudone] [ In reply to ]
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I'd call it a track car until they get a street legal version out there.

I think it's pretty fitting that the current "Production Car" record holder is the Porsche 911 GT2 RS. It's about as close to a true production car as possible. They are only building 1,000 of them, but they are pretty close to the "normal" 911s.
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Re: is this a sports car? [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]
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Andrewmc wrote:
http://www.evo.co.uk/electric-cars/19352/nio-ep9-electric-hypercar-specs-details-and-nurburgring-lap-record

that lap is amazing. what an amazing piece of engineering

I also saw a camaro is going for a sub 7 round there, that would be equally amazing, that would be quick no matter what.

Meh, millions of Euros and latest technology and still thirty seconds slower than a Porsche was nearly 35 years ago -- and only thirty seconds faster than a Chevrolet Camaro (my googlefu shows 7:16 for the Camaro).

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Re: is this a sports car? [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]
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Race car.

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Re: is this a sports car? [spudone] [ In reply to ]
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spudone wrote:
Also electric cars like this that are simply trying to beat the Nurburgring lap time, usually have very little range. Both due to the way they use power, and the need to lower weight.

I'd call it a track car until they get a street legal version out there.

This is a good point.

The technology is amazing, but here, the car appears to be built primarily for setting a Nurburgring lap time. That's impressive, but the real task is to transfer that technology into something that's useful. It's not unheard of for a car to be built for Nurburgring but to end up being shit on the road.
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Re: is this a sports car? [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]
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The article writer doesn't have any sense of scale. If you asked every electricity-generating plant in the US to simultaneously come on line at 100% output, last I looked you still come up a little shy of 1 million megawatts

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