Exactly. I remember this from 10 years ago with the very first DeSoto I bought.

Did you have the Mav X gen 1? If so, any noticeable difference?

Edit-oh wait, the X doesn't have a Gen 2, only the pro and elite?

I went from an Xterra Vortex wetsuit to the Roka Maverick X.

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I currently have the Xterra Vector Pro full wetsuit. I too am eyeing that Roka arms up design. It does not help they are taunting me with that 30% discount but am not sure if moving to the Roka suit is going to gain me anything. As for my swimming capabilities, I would consider myself MOP with my best time coming in at 1:06 last year at the Boulder full. Hoping to best that this year at IMAZ. The thought is to buy the Roka and sell my Xterra for $100. Perhaps my money is spent wisely in other areas such as a skinsuit or whatever they are called.

I'm drawn by a discount too. My current suits are fine, but I wonder what the newer technology brings? As at times I do feel some shoulder fatigue, and my current suit has the very best thin neoprene in it's shoulders. Perhaps the arms up idea may make a difference.

Thank you for your expertise Dan . For sure the De Soto will have to fit better and be more comfortable since you have two parts moving and not just one. When you swim and reach up the De Soto will have the top moving up and will give you an easier reach. In other suits, since the back panel and the zipper are to short , you are fighting the neoprene and have a harder time moving your arms in the first phase of the stroke and you fatigue faster.....
The answer to all of that if you want a one piece is to get an Aquaman. Right Gary?

If I were to buy a one-piece, I would buy an Aquaman. It is a great suit and I really like the founder of the company.

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Emilio De Soto II
Maker of triathlon clothing, T1 Wetsuits, & Saddle Seat Pads and AXS since 1990
emilio@desotosport.com http://www.desotosport.com

Totally right E! Mine is getting old though.......got any to make old men fast again?

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Of course! We have 49 different size combinations to make anyone faster! Ping me if you want to get started, or come out to San Diego and stop into the shop like you used to do some 25 years ago.

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Emilio De Soto II
Maker of triathlon clothing, T1 Wetsuits, & Saddle Seat Pads and AXS since 1990
emilio@desotosport.com http://www.desotosport.com

Haha! That’s right. I was replying to two different “E”’s! Emilio AND Emmanuel have been awesome to me in the past. Wish I could make it out to SD. Stuck in the Midwest still....