It looks like Amazon has them

http://www.amazon.com/...ds=DeSoto%20Forza%20

Good luck. I'm in the middle of trying to figure out if I want to spend the money to replace my tri gear. This is sure a costly sport.

I used to wear Desoto Forza shorts but have now changed to SOAS. I am very small (read short!) so find the shorter leg length of SOAS more comfortable.

Have you tried straight from DeSotoSport.com? That is where I get my DeSoto stuff and with their 100% satisfaction guarantee you are covered.

https://www.desotosport.com/category/wforza


Good luck, John

Hello Instigator,

A lot has changed here at De Soto even since 2013, starting with our new Ceramico Integrated Pads. Read below and let me know if I can answer an questions for you.

http://www.desotosport.com/products/ceramico.php

DE SOTO CERAMICO PAD - PATENT PENDING No. 72551-20001.00
Ceramico™ is a polyurethane based coating embedded to the outside of pad with rock-hard ceramic beads. You actually see these beads on the outside of the pad, and therefore, from the outside of the garment!. The Integrated pad is sewn onto the surrounding panels, instead of inside the short, so there is no fabric covering the pad, and so there are no seams on any part of where you sit. The inside of the pad is a soft plush fiber that stretches with the short and follows your skin as it moves on the bike and run, eliminating the friction that can cause irritation or rashes. Since the pad floats, you will not be bogged down if you chose to wear this garment under a wetsuit for a long race. This environmentally-friendly innovation is completely free of solvents.

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Emilio De Soto II
Maker of triathlon clothing, T1 Wetsuits, & Saddle Seat Pads and AXS since 1990
emilio@desotosport.com http://www.desotosport.com