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Maybe...[cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]
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...we should borrow the Supreme Court's definition of pornography and reword it for poseurs:

"I'll know one when I see one"



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Re: The bunnyman Definition of a Posuer [Bob] [ In reply to ]
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I believe you have just summed up why I hate SUVs. You don't need an SUV in a snowy climate and If you need a suburban to go camping, its not camping. You would think that people weren't able to survive pre-SUV from all that. As far as accident safety, SUVs are not more safe and they would probably flip over if I hit you with my "ecologically correct" car. Not to mention the aggressive driving mentality that nearly all SUV drivers seem to have. Not to mention the fact that gas guzzling cars keep us at the mercy of oil producing countries.
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Re: The bunnyman Definition of a Posuer [swing] [ In reply to ]
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We should all ride environmentally friendly bikes...yeah right who would do that!!!
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suv - not a conservative car [ In reply to ]
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I fail to see what connection there is between all the excellent reasons to be anti-SUV, and liberalism. SUV's are the epitome of spendthrift profligacy, quite antithetical to conservatism. Just because Bob's SUV can easily kill someone in an ordinary car doesn't make it a good idea to drive one. Rather the reverse, I would have thought.

"It is a good feeling for old men who have begun to fear failure, any sort of failure, to set a schedule for exercise and stick to it. If an aging man can run a distance of three miles, for instance, he knows that whatever his other failures may be, he is not completely wasted away." Romain Gary, SI interview
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Re: The bunnyman Definition of a Posuer [swing] [ In reply to ]
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you city dwellers crack me up. If the wife and I didn't have 4WD there would be many weeks each winter when we don't make it to work or we don't get home due to Ice , Snow, Mud, downed trees. yes I carry my Chainsaw in the back all winter. Living in the mountains has its price of admission that I gladly pay

The rest of the year we take both of our bikes and gear to the races in one vehicle [6 cylnder 20mpg SUV by the way]

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What is with the SUV anger? [ In reply to ]
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Eric, though I don't require a chainsaw, I drive an SUV to get me where I want/need to go. I live in Boulder, CO and spend a fair amount of time in the backcountry all year. Without 4wd and the clearance of my SUV, I couldn't do that.

To say that nobody needs an SUV (paraphrasing) outside a farm environment is laughable. Yes, many people have gotten along without them in the past. A lot of people did OK without antibiotics as well.

I consider my last statement as ridiculous an analogy as some of the anti-SUV comments that have come before.
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Re: The bunnyman Definition of a Posuer [eric] [ In reply to ]
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is that chainsaw gas powered? or is it one of those "can't cut through soup" electric jobbies?

'cause ya know, that gas powered chainsaw is just another example of our dependence on oil producing countries...

How is it that threads can deteriorate so quickly? :-)

Woody (also a 6 cyl. 20 mpg SUV dude)

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Re: The bunnyman Definition of a Posuer [Woody] [ In reply to ]
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20" bar Stihl gas guzzler :-) because up here if you need the chainsaw 9 times out of 10 the power is out and will be out for a few days.

that reminds me, I have to finish hooking up the new generator to the propane tank this weekend before I get to go for a couple of 50 mile rides

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Re: The bunnyman Definition of a Posuer [eric] [ In reply to ]
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A 20" Stihl, propane, and an SUV... Eric, I feel like I know you.
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Re: The bunnyman Definition of a Posuer [kevins] [ In reply to ]
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lol, well I was out last season with a busted wrist but if you raced in Northern Cal. I officiated at every and I do mean every USAT Sanctioned race...so you may know me.

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Re: The bunnyman Definition of a Posuer [eric] [ In reply to ]
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I know Eric. ;-)

clm, who doesn't live on a farm, but does drive a big black pickup truck since it carries four bikes and four people

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Re: The bunnyman Definition of a Posuer [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Cathy

Mr Dolley and yours truley are going for an easy LSD on Sunday, want to join in?

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Re: Define the term: "poser" [MS.kansan] [ In reply to ]
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I couldn't agree more. If some people don't want to wear team gear unless they are on the team, fine. If they wont by an expensive bike unless they are TDF material, fine. But, for some people, if it takes wearing a Yellow Jersey with USPS Shorts, and a USPS Trek, fine. That is their money gone, good for them that they have it to spend.

The only thing i don't like is people faking what they are. These people usually stand out, most people know they are posers. In this case, just dont pay attention to them. You know what they can really do. But more importantly, you know what YOU can do. If telling a big 'fish story' (sorry, im a hick at heart) gets them on the road, fine. I still have more respect for these people than those who don't get off the couch all day with the exception of going to the bathroom and the fridge. Just my $.02, take it or leave it.
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Where did the rant against SUV's come from? [ In reply to ]
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I never dreamt that my definition of "poseur" was going to amount to a pro/anti SUV thread. I have no opinion on the SUV debate.

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Re: Where did the rant against SUV's come from? [bunnyman] [ In reply to ]
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boy how this thread has deterioted.

Around here, if someone shows up for the group rides wearing a team jersey, it usually means they are on that particular team. I remember last year at the Palomar Challenge when I was out warming up and thinking when I saw this guy wearing a Saturn jersey and a team bike, "what a poser". Luckily I didn't say anything out loud, it was Trent Klasna.

I do agree with the earlier post, whatever it takes to get you up and off the couch and on the road.

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Re: Where did the rant against SUV's come from? [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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I tend to never say anything, as I have become a reformed bad behaviour-type. The former behaviour got me eating my toes on occasion. The biggest thing is that you never know who is really wearing that jersey,as the type of stories you told have happened even in St. Louis, MO.

I am with you on the "what ever gets you off of the couch" mentality. I was a couch potato after an unsuccessful career as a USCF racer. I have been on that couch.
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Re: The bunnyman Definition of a Posuer [Bob] [ In reply to ]
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What about d) lives in a snowy climate, e) likes to go camping f) likes to go hunting g) tows a boat h) likes to improve their odds of surviving an accident i) has a large family j, k, l, m,.....
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Re: What is with the SUV anger? [kevins] [ In reply to ]
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Eric, though I don't require a chainsaw, I drive an SUV to get me where I want/need to go. I live in Boulder, CO and spend a fair amount of time in the backcountry all year. Without 4wd and the clearance of my SUV, I couldn't do that.


Dude, just try going back to a car. I made the switch back (from an SUV) and I am so much happier. Better MPG, more comfortable, more stable, faster, chicks dig it. Sure, I jam things into every spare inch when I do road trips with gear, but it all fits.

Think about it this way, most approaches to hiking or biking trails in Colorado have two trailheads, one for cars and one further up for trucks/SUVs. Why not stop early and hike the rest, or take the real-man's challenge and navigate a 4x4 truck trail with a 5" ground clearance Geo Prism.

My point is that you are better off buying gear for normal use and then having a little challenge when you push it's limits than buying gear for extreme conditions and then wasting it's potential 99% of the time.

-Marc
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Re: What is with the SUV anger? [MarcK] [ In reply to ]
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Your points are well taken. My choice is half laziness [my 80lb dog and wife in the Metro, plus gear, apres run] and half utilitarian [I don't want to be known in Ouray as "The Dude Without the Oilpan"].

I could certainly make do with a 4wd or awd car 70% of the time, as you say. But the other 30% seems to come up at the most inopportune times.
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