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Should the Democratic Party be Exclusively Atheist?



Please, please, please make it so. Sadly, the overall response was very negative, but some of the tidbits were truly hilarious.

But Jesus never dragged his religion out to complicate things.

I'm just trying to simplify things. I think we have some time to reduce unnecessary differences among us, so we can march into the future as one, without illogical complications like faith and things.

No, I'm sure the Romans crucified him for money laundering and car jacking. It surely couldn't have been anything to do with religion and politics. But I loved the insightful thinking in the follow up, and surely you wouldn't want to muck up a party with illogical complications like beliefs and crap. Sounds like they'd do better selling potato chips and deodorant instead of politics.

A few did have the brains to think in numerical terms

Reduce the Dem Party to about a 15th it's size?. . .
no
No no no a thousand times NO
Yeah, right, and exclusively Gay too... Then we could get a whopping 4%
But it would be a pretty damn solid 4%!!!

This is a choice one.

I thought we were against "church" and state

What can you say? The phrase from the junior high history lesson goes in one ear, a hunk falls off, and look what's left bouncing around in their little noggin.


Here's the rest of the DU thread on this discussion of metaphysics and eschatology, at least as it realates to THEIR "end of the Democratic World" theology:


[/url]A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-07-04 02:50 PM
Original message Should the Democratic Party be Exclusively Atheist?


I think that would clear a few things up around here.
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Should the Democratic Party be Exclusively Atheist? A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 02:50 PM #0 In a word, "No." n/t WakeMeUp Nov-07-04 02:51 PM #1 i don't think so ogradda Nov-07-04 02:51 PM #2 Well, could you separate the two? A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 02:59 PM #19 Maybe democrats shouldn't drive cars. H2O Man Nov-07-04 03:07 PM #31 Thank you. The first idea is to be UNITED, A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:08 PM #109 well of course ogradda Nov-07-04 03:13 PM #40 No. mirandaod Nov-07-04 02:53 PM #3 Deleted message Name removed Nov-07-04 02:53 PM #4 Why? The left is more in line with Christ's teachings than the right is. Cat Atomic Nov-07-04 02:54 PM #5 Yes, but we agree that the right is full of false piety. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:03 PM #25 Where would we find candidates? IMModerate Nov-07-04 03:21 PM #53 I don't want a atheist candidate. Why? A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:17 PM #113 No, just stick with our principle of separation of church & state Patiod Nov-07-04 02:54 PM #6 Since most people in Democratic party stlchic Nov-07-04 02:54 PM #7 I most am certainly not. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:08 PM #32 too many of the wrong kind of people around? ogradda Nov-07-04 03:15 PM #44 Absolutely, unequivically NOT!! n/t hippywife Nov-07-04 03:16 PM #47 Absolutely NOT! napi21 Nov-07-04 02:54 PM #8 I may believe in the existence of God. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 02:57 PM #13 Your suggestion implies that goverment secularism stlchic Nov-07-04 03:00 PM #20 Yeah, that's what I wanted to say. DireStrike Nov-07-04 03:03 PM #24 Well, as long as you're for throwing SOMEBODY out A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:05 PM #28 Why exclude people who agree with us? IMModerate Nov-07-04 03:12 PM #39 Lol. DireStrike Nov-07-04 03:02 PM #22 I most certainly do understand that separation. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:11 PM #35 that's silly. bowens43 Nov-07-04 07:27 PM #172 hell no JohnKleeb Nov-07-04 02:55 PM #9 I understand it but it kind of makes my brain feel funny A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:15 PM #43 I also feel we shouldn't be a christian party if makes you feel any better JohnKleeb Nov-07-04 03:20 PM #52 Don't turn athiesthism into a religion!!! lanparty Nov-07-04 05:13 PM #111 How would we measure and discern it? A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:26 PM #117 I'm so sorry that your brain hurts keeping all this straight End of all Hope Nov-07-04 05:33 PM #120 "most pointless post ever in General Discussion" A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:41 PM #127 Yeah, you're right End of all Hope Nov-07-04 05:47 PM #132 Oh, come on, stick to your guns. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:50 PM #134 If you'd checked my profile End of all Hope Nov-07-04 05:58 PM #137 Real men don't check profiles. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 06:03 PM #140 too bad that it could not be secular, rather than using the lable atheist Marianne Nov-07-04 02:55 PM #10 Well, you could call it something else then. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:20 PM #51 our bible is and should be the constitution knowbody0 Nov-07-04 02:55 PM #11 Oops! Misread that! Sorry! MsMagnificent Nov-07-04 03:02 PM #23 No where in the Constitution is a god mentioned Marianne Nov-07-04 03:03 PM #26 That whole era and its syntax usage is fascinating MsMagnificent Nov-07-04 03:16 PM #45 Hey we have a goddess standing tall atop the Capital building Marianne Nov-07-04 03:24 PM #54 Sure it does. H2O Man Nov-07-04 03:42 PM #61 No the constitution DOES NOT mention GOD!!!! lanparty Nov-07-04 05:32 PM #118 Please don't send me insulting e-mails. H2O Man Nov-07-04 08:45 PM #179 NO, the constittution does NOT mention god !!! lanparty Nov-07-04 05:39 PM #126 I hope you are able to read..... H2O Man Nov-07-04 09:06 PM #185 Oh, would you point that out to me, I must have missed it Marianne Nov-07-04 06:27 PM #153 Sure. H2O Man Nov-07-04 08:36 PM #177 Well if you're mono-theistic ... lanparty Nov-07-04 05:17 PM #114 I'm an atheist and I say no. Cobalt Violet Nov-07-04 02:55 PM #12 I'm another atheist and I too, say no IMModerate Nov-07-04 03:07 PM #30 I'm not joking. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:27 PM #55 You make the error H2O Man Nov-07-04 03:51 PM #64 I think it may be a bit satirical sangh0 Nov-07-04 05:21 PM #116 Not satirical. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:33 PM #119 Then I apologize sangh0 Nov-07-04 05:37 PM #123 No apology necessary. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:48 PM #133 Well, I'm not a Christian, but I consider myself a religious liberal sangh0 Nov-07-04 06:09 PM #142 Thank you, SanghO. On this one thought... A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 06:20 PM #148 Yes, compassion is the best response sangh0 Nov-07-04 06:34 PM #154 No, I dont practice it as often as I could either, A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 06:48 PM #159 Dems are more religious than Rethugs. DireStrike Nov-07-04 02:57 PM #14 But Jesus never dragged his religion out to complicate things. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:32 PM #56 absolutely not flyingfysh Nov-07-04 02:57 PM #15 I dont want to exclude anybody. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:35 PM #57 absolutely not. bowens43 Nov-07-04 02:58 PM #16 Well maybe not but I think being comfortable around each other A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:39 PM #59 Deleted message Name removed Nov-07-04 02:58 PM #17 Absurd MsMagnificent Nov-07-04 02:59 PM #18 No, my idea is evolving as I go down the thread. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:46 PM #63 This atheist thinks it's a stupid idea Warpy Nov-07-04 03:00 PM #21 This atheist agrees with that atheist... lwin Nov-07-04 03:09 PM #33 Yes, I am changing my views as I write. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:53 PM #65 No, but we should be exclusively SECULAR... mitchum Nov-07-04 03:04 PM #27 we would never win another election Doomsayer13 Nov-07-04 03:06 PM #29 I am only talking about amongst ourselves. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 03:56 PM #69 Give me a break. We accept ALL religions. That is what makes Us DuaneBidoux Nov-07-04 03:10 PM #34 Yes, in one way it is good to be different A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:17 PM #83 We shouldn't have to explain our beliefs. Cleita Nov-07-04 03:11 PM #36 Right, but I'm talking about separation of religion and politics A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:23 PM #84 this atheist thinks your post is flame-bait.... mike_c Nov-07-04 03:11 PM #37 It was not flame-bait. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 07:06 PM #166 This atheist says "don't be stupid". Zhade Nov-07-04 03:12 PM #38 You are right. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:28 PM #86 How the hell would pretending to be atheists gain votes? End of all Hope Nov-07-04 05:44 PM #131 Please calm down, for my sake if not yours. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 06:07 PM #141 No, no, no and no. n/t Ann Arbor Dem Nov-07-04 03:13 PM #41 Of course not skygazer Nov-07-04 03:14 PM #42 Agree & disagree. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:34 PM #88 I think the French do great things with potatoes. IMModerate Nov-07-04 05:00 PM #104 Why don't they call apples "potatoes of the air"? A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:36 PM #122 No, imo Kenergy Nov-07-04 03:16 PM #46 The problem is that religious Dems *don't* believe A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:39 PM #89 Reduce the Dem Party to about a 15th it's size?. . . Journeyman Nov-07-04 03:17 PM #48 My views have evolved. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:43 PM #92 Hell No Uzybone Nov-07-04 03:17 PM #49 But couldn't you be a liberal/democrat A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:47 PM #94 Of course not LiberteToujours Nov-07-04 03:18 PM #50 Now there's a great idea. We would do away with probably spenbax Nov-07-04 03:37 PM #58 No. smbolisnch Nov-07-04 03:42 PM #60 I'm not telling them they must be atheists. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:49 PM #97 Well in that case, smbolisnch Nov-07-04 04:56 PM #102 Well, that makes two of us. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:01 PM #105 Well, we could all just do what I do.. smbolisnch Nov-07-04 05:10 PM #110 I don't know. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:55 PM #135 you've been listening to GOP propaganda too much Cocoa Nov-07-04 03:46 PM #62 Good point .... H2O Man Nov-07-04 03:55 PM #66 I'm sorry you feel that way. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:53 PM #100 We couldn't possibly do anything worse, a DEFINITE NO! sgr2 Nov-07-04 03:56 PM #67 Thank you for at least a polite response. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:55 PM #101 no GRLMGC Nov-07-04 03:56 PM #68 No no no a thousand times NO donheld Nov-07-04 03:58 PM #70 What the hell are you talking about? Q Nov-07-04 03:58 PM #71 I am not talking about government. Sheesh. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 04:58 PM #103 Of course you're talking about the government... Q Nov-07-04 06:14 PM #145 The ENTIRE FOUNDATION of the D Party is to be NOT EXCLUSIVE LynnTheDem Nov-07-04 03:58 PM #72 "go make up your own party" A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 06:59 PM #165 We would never win an election Geek_Girl Nov-07-04 03:58 PM #73 Well, we could find some who would PRETEND to be atheist. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 07:09 PM #167 no. denay Nov-07-04 03:58 PM #74 No, it should be exclusively secular! plastic_turkeys Nov-07-04 03:59 PM #75 Doesn't matter... Concerned GA Voter Nov-07-04 04:00 PM #76 What a Founding Father thought Carl Brennan Nov-07-04 04:02 PM #77 George Washinton and Thomas Paine thought.... Carl Brennan Nov-07-04 04:07 PM #78 I thought we were the all-inclusive party? Scairp Nov-07-04 04:07 PM #79 Absurd, yes, you see. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 07:17 PM #169 Whatever for? leesa Nov-07-04 04:09 PM #80 No. And I don't follow your "logic" at all. - n/t nemdaille Nov-07-04 04:11 PM #81 Hmmm... I don't think we should be exclusively Atheist. Say we want mgdecombe Nov-07-04 04:12 PM #82 Now, see, here's an Atheist with a sense of humor. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:58 PM #136 No! freetobegay Nov-07-04 04:24 PM #85 Not even worthy of a response. Glad to see DU opposes absurdity. (nt) Selwynn Nov-07-04 04:29 PM #87 Hey, don't knock absurdity. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 06:02 PM #139 If so, don't expect to win any elections for a long time JVS Nov-07-04 04:40 PM #90 No. Baraka Nov-07-04 04:42 PM #91 The Democratic Party isn't atheist. Period. ccbombs Nov-07-04 04:43 PM #93 NO!!!! catbert836 Nov-07-04 04:47 PM #95 No! wryter2000 Nov-07-04 04:48 PM #96 Speaking as an atheist, I would say "NO" AngryWhiteLiberal Nov-07-04 04:53 PM #98 No- are you kidding about this? Redleg Nov-07-04 04:53 PM #99 Neither one. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 06:12 PM #144 I'LL NEVER CATCH UP WITH ALL THIS. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 05:05 PM #106 Democrats are not about EXCLUSION ... lanparty Nov-07-04 05:07 PM #107 Here is how we can appeal to the Religious Right Clarkie1 Nov-07-04 05:08 PM #108 The only logical thing to do? Right, that makes sense. End of all Hope Nov-07-04 05:16 PM #112 why? pdx_prog Nov-07-04 05:20 PM #115 No really annoyed Nov-07-04 05:34 PM #121 No. pinto Nov-07-04 05:37 PM #124 Yeah, right, and exclusively Gay too... Then we could get a whopping 4% Misunderestimator Nov-07-04 05:38 PM #125 But it would be a pretty damn solid 4%!!! A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 07:28 PM #173 No. And how is it "logical" to alienate religious liberals? scarlet_owl Nov-07-04 05:42 PM #128 LOL I do love your posts. madfloridian Nov-07-04 05:42 PM #129 Thank you. Truly. Deeply. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 06:22 PM #150 No fucking way. Have you lost your mind? jchild Nov-07-04 05:42 PM #130 Yes. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 07:29 PM #174 As an atheist, I'd have to say Kaelinn Nov-07-04 06:00 PM #138 We're the party that embraces religion; they're the one that requires it. PurityOfEssence Nov-07-04 06:09 PM #143 I see flame-bait as a post A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 06:35 PM #155 Is this a loaded question? nfm JackRiddler Nov-07-04 06:15 PM #146 Clean & sober. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 07:31 PM #175 No. That's silly! Laelth Nov-07-04 06:16 PM #147 I thought we were against "church" and state? molly Nov-07-04 06:22 PM #149 We're not against church. Laelth Nov-07-04 06:41 PM #156 Actually that is what I meant - but atheism is a belief molly Nov-07-04 06:45 PM #158 Agreed. Laelth Nov-07-04 08:11 PM #176 No it is lack of belief Marianne Nov-07-04 06:44 PM #157 Surely you ask this sarcastically? petepillow Nov-07-04 06:22 PM #151 No, I asked with passion & anger & hurt. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 06:53 PM #161 No, not at all HeeBGBz Nov-07-04 06:25 PM #152 Nice... very nice.... Let's see now... hlthe2b Nov-07-04 06:50 PM #160 I'm glad we're able to hide threads again n/t HootieMcBoob Nov-07-04 06:56 PM #162 damn, I thought we got that function back HootieMcBoob Nov-07-04 06:57 PM #163 You can always put me on ignore & then A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 07:11 PM #168 Absolutely NOT. They would exclude me, a proud Christian Dem. Zuni Nov-07-04 06:59 PM #164 No. LizW Nov-07-04 07:17 PM #170 absolutely stupid idea...idea is a repub talking point ..how many DUers bobbieinok Nov-07-04 07:26 PM #171 No. It should just exclude hypocrites indigobusiness Nov-07-04 08:44 PM #178 Uh oh we could all be in trouble then. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 08:52 PM #181 Just the hypocrites... indigobusiness Nov-07-04 09:00 PM #183 Doesn't hypocrisy mean A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 09:03 PM #184 It isn't about absolutes. indigobusiness Nov-07-04 09:16 PM #191 Are you nuts? eom DemBones DemBones Nov-07-04 08:47 PM #180 No, but sometimes I forget the difference. A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 08:54 PM #182 Deleted message Name removed Nov-07-04 09:07 PM #186 EXCLUSION is an upRIGHT thing to do,dont you think .therefore THEHURON57 Nov-07-04 09:12 PM #187 I am what? Got an English translation of that post? A-Schwarzenegger Nov-07-04 09:14 PM #189 no party should be completely athiest or you exclude a large majority harpo Nov-07-04 09:14 PM #188 I would have to go elsewhere then to a third party, and you'd lose MrsGrumpy Nov-07-04 09:14 PM #190 I'm an atheist and I think this is really a dumb question. RebelOne Nov-07-04 09:17 PM #192 Locking. Moderator Nov-07-04 09:20 PM #193 Previous thread | Next thread



Despite all that, I STILL enjoy going over there and hearing what they have to say. Some of it is pretty insightful and some of it is, well.....exactly what you find over here, but with a Dem spin instead of a Reepub spin ;-))

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