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How is this legal or constitutional????????? Thanks a lot for reelecting Bush whoever aided in that.........

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=716&e=6&u=/ap/20041107/ap_on_re_us/reservist_lawsuit

Veteran Sues After He Receives Duty Order

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U.S. National - AP

HONOLULU - A veteran of the first Persian Gulf War (news - web sites) is suing the Army after it ordered him to report for duty 13 years after he was honorably discharged from active duty and eight years after he left the reserves.



Kauai resident David Miyasato received word of his reactivation in September, but says he believes he completed his eight-year obligation to the Army long ago.

"I was shocked," Miyasato said Friday. "I never expected to see something like that after being out of the service for 13 years."

His federal lawsuit, filed Friday in Honolulu, seeks a judgment declaring that he has fulfilled his military obligations.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Harry Yee said his office would defend the Army. He declined to comment further. An Army spokewoman at the Pentagon (news - web sites) declined to comment to the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

Miyasato, 34, was scheduled to report to a military facility in South Carolina on Tuesday.

Within hours of filing the lawsuit, however, Miyasato received a faxed letter from the Army's Human Resources Command saying his "exemption from active duty had not been finalized at this time" and that he has been given an administrative delay for up to 30 days, said his attorney, Eric Seitz.

Miyasato, his wife, Estelle, and their 7-month-old daughter, Abigail, live in Lihue, where he opened an auto-tinting shop two years ago.

His lawsuit states that Miyasato is suing not because he opposes the war in Iraq (news - web sites), but because his business and family would suffer "serious and irreparable harm" if he is required to serve.

Miyasato enlisted in the Army in 1987 and served in Iraq and Kuwait during the first Persian Gulf War as a petroleum supply specialist and truck driver.

Miyasato said he received an honorable discharge from active duty in 1991, then served in the reserves until 1996 to fulfill his eight-year enlistment commitment.

The Army announced last year that it would involuntarily activate an estimated 5,600 soldiers to serve in Iraq, Afghanistan (news - web sites) and elsewhere. Army officials would be tapping members of the Individual Ready Reserve — military members who have been discharged from the Army, Army Reserve or the Army National Guard, but still have contractual obligations to the military.

Miyasato said he never re-enlisted, signed up for any bonuses or was told that he had been transferred to the Individual Ready Reserve or any other Army Reserve unit.

"I fulfilled my contract," Miyasato said. "I just want to move on from this, and I'm optimistic that I'll be successful."

Miyasato speculated that he may have been picked because his skills as a truck driver and refueler are in demand in Iraq. He told reporters he did the same work as that done by a group of Army reservists who refused to deliver fuel along a dangerous route in Iraq last month.
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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [turtles] [ In reply to ]
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It's impossible to say for sure without more details, but if he was in fact IRR, then they could recall him at any time, just as they did for many other people. This isn't a Bush thing. It's how military service works.

Slowguy

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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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Another person who doesn't understand our military nor take the time to learn how it works.



Sighhhhhh....

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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [turtles] [ In reply to ]
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"yeah, but he said he fufilled his duty. he supposedly doesnt owe them anything."

According to him, he doesn't owe anything. Like I said, without the facts, we can't say for sure. You'd be surprised at how many people don't actually know their status after they get off of active duty. People are lazy on their way out, just like people in the civilian secotr.

Slowguy

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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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yeah, but he said he fufilled his duty. he supposedly doesnt owe them anything.
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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [turtles] [ In reply to ]
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Is there a lot of precent of being called into service while having contracts to serve? For instance did it happen in the Gulf War or is this setting a precedent?
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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [turtles] [ In reply to ]
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The guy might belong to this group

What is the Standby Reserve?

Reserve personnel who maintain their military affiliation without being in the Ready Reserve (10 USC 10151) Subject to involuntary active duty under full mobilization (10 USC 12301a) Status Lists in the Standby Reserve: Active Status List: Reservists assigned to Standby Reserve for temporary hardship or other cogent reasons, or who have been identified as “key employees” in their civilian position. Inactive Status List: Reservists not required to remain in an active program, and who maintain their Reserve affiliation in a non-participating status.


I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure these types of guys get activated all the time. Usually they are guys with specific skills, like truck drivers, as the articale said. I'd bet that there wern't many in Gulf War 1 because it was such a short duration, but I don't know for sure. I'll see if i can find info on it.

Slowguy

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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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thanks. i'd be very interested to know.
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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [turtles] [ In reply to ]
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Gulf War 1 was the biggest call up of reserves since Korea with about 84,000 activated. Some of these were Standby Reserves filling various positions. Most were Active Reserves or NG.

bottom line is; once Uncle Sam gets his meathooks in ya, he never ever let's go. Anyone with a brain knows that when they get out.

Slowguy

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Last edited by: slowguy: Nov 6, 04 19:58
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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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I had no idea. Thanks for the info.
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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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The guy might belong to this group

Not the way I read it. Explain how, please.








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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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I'm just a country boy from the sticks, but even I knew the basic rule:

Sign here, then we own your ass.



Still, it's too bad this guy is getting called up.
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Re: THIS IS CRAP!!!!! [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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Gulf War 1 was the biggest call up of reserves since Korea with about 84,000 activated. Some of these were Standby Reserves filling various positions. Most were Active Reserves or NG.

bottom line is; once Uncle Sam gets his meathooks in ya, he never ever let's go. Anyone with a brain knows that when they get out.
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