There is such little published data (BRR, Aerocoach and the like) on tubulars that it’s kind of a crap shoot unless you have someone in the know. I’m liking my Veloflex but Vittoria aren’t a bad option either. I want to like conti tubs as much as I like their clinchers but unless you can find some ProLTD tires, they aren’t ideal as they use butyl tubes instead of latex.

Besides not using latex my main issue with Conti tubs is that they only make them in 695c :D

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Been using vittoria corsa g+ 2.0. They seem to roll fast, corner well. Wouldn't call them super puncture resistant though

In my track days we used Vittoria Cotton, but I wouldn't use those on the road. Continental Competition has been a standby choice for a lot of road teams. Keep in mind that the type and amount of glue used is more important than the actual tyre.

Road Bike Tires Test Results | Bicycle Rolling Resistance

lists just 5 tubulars and those tested in 2016/17. So it's hard to find any information on tubulars anymore.

My rear Bontrager XXX Race developed a leak around the valve which I couldn't fix, gave up and put on an old Continental Sprinter while I think about what to get next. The Sprinter isn't the fastest but it's very hardy..

Michelin has a relatively new tubular, the blurb says,
Michelin - New bike tire MICHELIN POWER Competition
The MICHELIN POWER Competition was raced throughout 2018 by pro cycling outfit Cofidis Solutions Crédits and its maiden campaign harvested 54 podium finishes in extreme conditions, including 21 victories.
This new tubular tyre combines aramid-reinforced cotton with a latex innertube for superior efficiency and strength. Its new compound is derived from the MICHELIN POWER range to deliver outstanding efficiency and grip on dry and wet roads alike, while Hi-Density Protek cross-laid strengthening provides additional protection against puncturing.


Might try that..

You can have a new tube put in, especially if the tread is still in good shape.
https://www.tirealert.com/

Even in 2022, I still find that some tubulars out perform anything else when it comes to real world race courses and flat fixes.....

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I used Conti Competition. No latex tubes though, but decent CCR, puncture protection and can run flat - 30km/hr. I've seen quite a few peeps on the Corsa too (not the Corsa Speed).

 

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Still have a fair share of tubular wheels, so here's my take.

28mm tub: Specialized Hell of The North or Veloflex Pro Tour, if possible, choose the former (available in tan wall only, though). 6000+ km per tire and still going.

25mm tub: many options. Veloflex are +/- ok (Pro Tour / Pro Tour Race), but I actually felt the "classic" models (Arenberg) were more robust, you can't get them anymore, though, unless finding some NOS. Meanwhile, Michelin actually have come out with a new tub, Power Cup (also in clincher & tubeless versions), but no tests yet and the tub is quite more expensive, compared to others. Have ridden the Michelin Pro4 / Power tubs, they're fine. Abandoned Vittoria like 10 years ago, so no idea if the Corsas are now good or not. The Corsa (not Speed) clinchers / tubeless are rumoured to have the best cornering grip out there, so tubs should be fine in that regard, but not the fastest and, from what I gather, with occasional quality control issues.

23mm tub - nobody rides them anymore, hard to find, fat rims and 30mm tyres are nice, but I can tell you, on a good pavement, nothing feels like a Veloflex Extreme / Carbon on a 25x23mm carbon rim (1000g wheelset) ;)

I find Conti ProLTD (with latex) slow. Subjectively and partially objectively too. Happen to have a 60mm tubular disc wheelset, which is always notably slower if compared to 60x25mm wheels tubeless(also Conti) setup on the same aero bike.

Never waste any money on a tub with butyl tube inside. In such case, save for some tubeless wheels and forget about tubs.

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We have just gone from conti comps to vittorias corsa 2.0 (dispite me saying I’d never go to vittorias ever again after puncture after puncture 15 years ago errrr)
Found them to be quicker than the contis , way easier to fit and so far super reliable

Only issue is some brand new ones leak at the valve stem when u add valve extensions , this seems to be a common issue if u google it

Best place to info on tubbies these days is some British TT forums
These guys still use lots of tubbies and also ride on sh#t and wet/crappy roads so good feedback is possible

Also im after some good disc tubular rims after getting a new disc speed concept
Seems not many big names make em these days
Zipp only do them in the NSW version , which are very big $$$$$ and ugly as

Anyone know of any others HED etc

I also use the VC 2.0, never had any issues with them, and they also slow leak at the stem for me, annoying having to inflat them every ride but can’t complain otherwise.

I’ve flatted the conties so much I’ve given up on them completely.

I ended up getting some FFWD F9Ds for $1150 for the wheelset. Disc brake. 90mm. Wanted a rear disc, but not many cheap options for disc br

Vision make some pretty good wheels actually…and do have disc brake tubulars…not overly priced either.

Quote: "23mm tub - nobody rides them anymore, hard to find, fat rims and 30mm tyres are nice, but I can tell you, on a good pavement, nothing feels like a Veloflex Extreme / Carbon on a 25x23mm carbon rim (1000g wheelset) ;)"

Not true--I have always used 19-23 mm tubulars my entire race career. I still do, but are very difficult to find a light, solid puncture resistant tire. Currently using Specialized Turbo Cotton Mountain--I think the new name is the "All Rounder" but they don't make a 23 anymnore (a climbing tire) on my 2010 P3. Wider rims won't fit the bike cut out, nor a wider tire. Conti Comp are crap--flatted every one I owned. Vittoria is ok but wear out fast.

The rims on the new bikes seem to change yearly with better development, glad I've held off on a new bike thus far or wheel. I prefer 23 tubies for their ride/feel over clinchers any day to race on. 20 mm was a bit narrow though & squirrely trying to hold a straight line (like riding a razor blade).