osugasman wrote:
Dan et al,
Getting read to purchase aftermarket wheels for a new Tarmac sl7 (expert). Wondering which wheelsets are ERTRO compliant as per manufacturers.
Specifically, looking at Enve 45/65 foundation, but would also consider other manufacturers. It's just that Enve always seems to be the benchmark, and I've had good luck with 3 other previous wheelsets form them.
Brian
I think this starts to touch on something
- its not clear to the consumer which rims are compliant to the 'latest' ETRTO standard.
- it's definitely not clear to a consumer which tyres are designed to suit rims to that new standard.
Now put yourselves in a big tyre manufacturing Co's shoes.
- are you going to redesign and re-tool to make your tyres meet that ? At how much $$$ to re-tool ?Say Conti with the gp5000. When will that REALLY get re-worked ?
- are you going to change the design now, knowing the vast majority or users will be on 'old' wheels for the next several years anyway. If you'd made the tyre 1 or 2 mm smaller to be safe previously, that reason still exists for the 90% of users (those on non-new-std rims).
- as a consumer how do I know for sure I'm getting the re-jigged tyre design when I buy it ? Will tyre manufacturers really label all the new tyres 'not safe unless used on 2019+ ETRTO wheels' in big bold writing that's visible at the point of sale / receipt in the post? I doubt it.
I'm quite happy with the idea of tubeless, and have run tubeless for years for MTB. But getting reliable safe tyres for the road bike with the wheels I have is a minefield and is a lottery when I spend £100+ on a pair of new tyres to find I have to bin them because they won't work on the wheels I have.
(Oh... and what a total PITA that for nearly all bike manufacturers they cheapskate on $10 and provide non-TL tyres with TLR wheels. Now THAT puts people off tubeless from the get-go. Having just spent £3k or a lot more on a new bike I'm told I have to drop another £100+ if I want them tubeless as the OEM tyres are non tubeless. That's rubbing salt in the wound. If needs be ship with a tube but at least fit TL tyres - and ones that work with the rims on the bike being sold at the same time !