Engner66 wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
I think we are in a agreement that for major illness (and this generally categorized in that group), you don't want to play around pushing things during and starting too early on the recovery swing.
But based on limited information, I don't think any of us know if the OP is incapable of dealing with not training (that's what you said, but he did not explicitly say that). He just says he likes training as it helps him avoid being depressed (but we don't know if its clinical depression or he's using the world lightly.
There is limited data on this virus right now to the degree to which it affects people as many carrying on with day to day life, without any clue they are carrying it while others are at the other extreme in hospitals on ventilators, so he MAY be asking in that context of those on the extremely mild end that is so mild that its almost undetectable. But I don't know. Many here may have had mild cases already and not even noticed anything and carried on with life including training. As more data emerges on who all have antibodies, maybe the base of knowledge will be wider for the medical recommendations.
For now, it seems to basically be "if you have it, stop everything" which makes the most sense given how little everyone knows about it.
This is just terrible advice.
To the OP: one of the pro tour cyclists, Colombian sprinter Fernando Gaviria, had the virus. He was out for months, if he can, you can. Just take the time off, just not worth it gambling with your health.
Are you suggesting that the part in bold is bad advice. This seems to be the advice most in the medical community are giving given we don't know much YET about the long term....and I closed that sentence with "
which make the most sense given how little everyone knows about it".
So I believe people are conflating the desire to understand what SHOULD be the proper protocol with the options of what a person does now given no known definitive protocol exists YET. It seems what we should do to be safest is rest. Meanwhile, searching for what the various paths out of an illness is a good area to advance scientific understanding.
The article that UKKINNY posted with the doc from Twin Cities Marathon discussing areas he is concerned about is very sensible. We have ex pros friends who raced when ill and had long term heart complications, so its seems to be a good area to be concerned about. the OP's doc putting a 100 bpm lid on activity takes care of extreme load on the heart from my vigorous exercise.
What some athletes are able to handle and deal with for example during and coming out of chemo and coming out healthy is completely different from an 80 year old with a lifetime of smoking, and the docs may permit more activity for young and robust if it helps them on their next round of chemo.
So the discussion is around trying to gain more knowledge on a topic. Shutting down a discussion when there is no definitive path YET does not get us to better understanding. The entire world are guinea pigs on this right now.
It may just be that the OP's doc's lid of 100 bpm send up being standard protocol for all in 5 years. Or there may end up being wide range of 'return to work/plan/life' for the infected depending on what range of symptoms they show on what days and intervals in between with no deterioration. It took a long long long time for the medical community to come to any consensus on concussions and even there lots of it still has individual variances, but return to play protocols are pretty solid now.
What's the return to work/play protocol for various degrees of Covid19? I believe this is essentially the OP's question.
On the Gaviria front, he got it at the UAE tour, doing daily 4-6 hrs stages in the desert for a week, while he was expected to be set up for stage wins in the sprint finishes, after long haul travel, so what may have got him lightly may have hit him harder (we don't know) due to the stress his body had at the time. It sounds like he did several stages with the virus before he knew it. I do hope he makes a great recovery. What the Twin Cities Marathon Doc implied on stress on the heart probably is a big concern. I'd guess Gaviria would have unknowingly dug himself a big hole potentially racing that hard with the virus.