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Re: Official Canyon Speedmax CF Owners Thread [JTNY] [ In reply to ]
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I'm looking to purchase a Canyon Speedmax, either the 8.0 or 7.0. Can anyone weigh in on whether the $1200 price difference is worth getting the 8.0 ($3700 vs $2500). In other words, how significant are the differences?
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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Jay, I've seen people post a picture of the Speedmax CF with a slammed stem and a shorter bento box, does Canyon offer a longer bento box for the CF models?
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [JTNY] [ In reply to ]
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JTNY - very interested to see your post. I'm about 4 years on a Planet X Exocet 2. Served me very well and I think I'm finally fixed in a nice position(s) but now lusting for change. P2 / P3 has long been on the wish list Now Speedmax CF keeps making itself heard. I treated myself to an Aeroad CF SLX 2 years ago and I still absolutely love it like a new bike every time I ride it, always makes me smile. Never really believed top end bikes could be that much better than cheaper rides, bu I do now. Corners like it is on rails but also retains all day comfort, and yes, just feels stiffer. P2/3 looks like it should be faster to me but your comment makes me suspect I might always regret not going for the CF. My Exocet handles ok, but you can't take liberties with it or you're headed for the ditch. And I always wonder just how well the power gets transmitted. On the Aeroad it's like I turned into a climber overnight. Obviously a bit lighter but I'm sure it's more than that. Just feels like everythng you put into the pedal goes direct to the road with nothing being soaked away. You've answered the question already really but just to confirm - no regrets going from P2 to CF?
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [claypole] [ In reply to ]
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claypole wrote:
JTNY - very interested to see your post. I'm about 4 years on a Planet X Exocet 2. Served me very well and I think I'm finally fixed in a nice position(s) but now lusting for change. P2 / P3 has long been on the wish list Now Speedmax CF keeps making itself heard. I treated myself to an Aeroad CF SLX 2 years ago and I still absolutely love it like a new bike every time I ride it, always makes me smile. Never really believed top end bikes could be that much better than cheaper rides, bu I do now. Corners like it is on rails but also retains all day comfort, and yes, just feels stiffer. P2/3 looks like it should be faster to me but your comment makes me suspect I might always regret not going for the CF. My Exocet handles ok, but you can't take liberties with it or you're headed for the ditch. And I always wonder just how well the power gets transmitted. On the Aeroad it's like I turned into a climber overnight. Obviously a bit lighter but I'm sure it's more than that. Just feels like everythng you put into the pedal goes direct to the road with nothing being soaked away. You've answered the question already really but just to confirm - no regrets going from P2 to CF?


Nope no regrets my p2 was a specs with 105s and the CF has ultegra di2 and the frame feels so much more stiffer
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [aaburov] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, there is a shorter bento box, but we don't have it available in stock in the U.S. I don't think there are many that have requested it, so it's not on the hot list the way the rear hydration brackets have been. Will come back to you with some intel... but it may be a non-starter for us, for now. But the more that request it, the more often it get run up the flagpole, and it increases our chance of stocking it.

Will come back with some 411.

Jay Prasuhn
Marketing Specialist, American Bicycle Group (Quintana Roo//Litespeed//Obed)
twitter.com/jayprasuhn

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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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Jay, what about a longer bento box which stretches further down the top tube?
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [aaburov] [ In reply to ]
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Hello,

I own a Speedmax CF Di2 from 2017 and have been super happy with it in Races. The fit is perfect. However recently the cockpit has been bothering me more and more. I mean the cables from the bar to the di2 Box, the non-integrated aero bars etc.
Have some of you addressed these issued with rebulding the cockpit? For example with an Aeria ultimate stem and base bar? Or in any other way?

Or just get a new integrated frame?
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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CanyonJay is it possible to mount my Wahoo Elemnt Bolt on my hydration unit? Jan has it :) I switched from Garmin to Wahoo but the wahoo doesn't fit
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [david222] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Guys,

Really struggling with the fit of the CF before ordering.

The size guide puts me on an XS - just sounds wrong to me.

I usually ride with my saddle around 720 from the centre of the BB.

My road bikes are always small or 52cm ish.

I'm 5 foot 6 - longer legs, shorter arms and torso.

My last bike, a Dolan Scala, fitted really well with an 80mm stem and the saddle all the way forward, but I'm struggling to compare the measurements.

Just need someone to look at them both and say yes, an XS is correct!

Thanks,

Pat.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [Avoneer] [ In reply to ]
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Pat,

The last bike of which you speak, it's a tri bike, right? And are/were you comfortable on that bike? Would you want the new Speedmax to fit pretty much the same way? I'm asking because I can walk you through a pretty simple process of measuring the Pad X and Pad Y of your current bike and then we will KNOW - not only what size is right (if it's the XS or the SM)...and...specifics on the front end set up.

Let me know, Ian

Ian Murray
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Ian,

Yes it was a tri bike and it was Ironman comfy.

Unfortunately it's now gone so I can only estimate the dimensions.

The only dimensions I kept were my saddle height (720mm), the distance from the nose of the saddle to the stem cap bolt (420mm) and stand over height (740mm).

Thanks,

Pat.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [Avoneer] [ In reply to ]
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I've since played with the Canyon PPS and for my height, my torso and arm length don't affect the size. It's the inseam length that makes the difference. I'm about 81cm which puts me on a Small. If it was 79cm, it puts me on an XS. Isn't the consensus to go smaller on a TT frame? Saying that, Small might give me the best options as it comes with an 80mm stem so I can go a bit shorter or longer does that make sense and that I should order a small?
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [Avoneer] [ In reply to ]
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Avoneer wrote:
Hi Guys,

Really struggling with the fit of the CF before ordering.

The size guide puts me on an XS - just sounds wrong to me.

I usually ride with my saddle around 720 from the centre of the BB.

My road bikes are always small or 52cm ish.

I'm 5 foot 6 - longer legs, shorter arms and torso.

My last bike, a Dolan Scala, fitted really well with an 80mm stem and the saddle all the way forward, but I'm struggling to compare the measurements.

Just need someone to look at them both and say yes, an XS is correct!

I'm 5'11" and ride a medium and should really be on a small frame. At your height a xs sounds correct.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [Avoneer] [ In reply to ]
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To answer your question directly, if both an XS and a S will fit...the bigger bike would perhaps be better for handling (considering the wheel base, front center, trail, etc). but..hold on....I'm hoping you have the patience to work through this with me.

The PPS is good. But knowing your Pad X and Pad Y is best.

Get your existing bike level: the best bet is to put in on a trainer with a wheel block under the front wheel so it's level - but you could just lean it against the wall (on a level floor) so that the bike is as straight up and down as possible. I'm going to ask you to measure a couple of things and to do this most accurately you'll want work on the non-drive side.

Measure from the floor up to top of your arm pad. Then measure from from the floor up to the center of the bottom bracket. Do the measurements a couple of times and get an average. Subtract the BB (bottom bracket) height from pad height. If you've doing this in inches then please go here and convert to millimeters. This is your Pad Y (also known as Pad Height).

Now, we need to find Pad X (aka Pad Reach). To do this you might need a hand from a friend or family member. Have them dangle a plumb line through the center of your BB (so they can hold it near the front of your saddle and then you can crouch down and guide to back up a hair or go forward a touch to get it dead center on the BB. Then measure from the plumb line to the back of the pad and to the center of the pad. I'd like to know both please. Convert this number to mm and you'll have your Pad X.

Get back to me here with your Pad X and Pad Y and I can confirm your bike purchase.

If you have questions hit me back and I'll solve it.

Ian

Ian Murray
http://www.TriathlonTrainingSeries.com
I like the pursuit of mastery
Twitter - @TriCoachIan
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [Avoneer] [ In reply to ]
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Pat. Hold tight. I can math out from saddle height and come up with a pretty good number. I'll get back to you ASAP.
Ian

Ian Murray
http://www.TriathlonTrainingSeries.com
I like the pursuit of mastery
Twitter - @TriCoachIan
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [ianpeace] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks guys.

Here's a pic of my last TT bike.

I have a Wattbike Atom so could loosely replicate any given dimensions to try.

Thanks,

Pat.


Last edited by: Avoneer: Nov 4, 18 11:31
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [david222] [ In reply to ]
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Indeed, it's possible, but Jan (as well as Team Katusha-Alpecin, as I noted on their bikes at Tour of California) cnc'd Wahoo Bolt inserts. We only offer a Garmin insert (given the brand's sheer popularity/volume) those inserts would have to be a Wahoo product. I've meant to reach out to them to find out if they will be making an insert that will work... lemme get back to you!

Jay Prasuhn
Marketing Specialist, American Bicycle Group (Quintana Roo//Litespeed//Obed)
twitter.com/jayprasuhn

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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [david222] [ In reply to ]
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Update: Wahoo does now make an adaptor, allowing use of a Bolt on a Garmin bracket:

https://www.wahoofitness.com/...mount-adapter-elemnt

Jay Prasuhn
Marketing Specialist, American Bicycle Group (Quintana Roo//Litespeed//Obed)
twitter.com/jayprasuhn

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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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CanyonJay wrote:
Update: Wahoo does now make an adaptor, allowing use of a Bolt on a Garmin bracket:

https://www.wahoofitness.com/...mount-adapter-elemnt


Jay is there a Canyon GPS mount made for our CF's? I know there is one for the SLX but not sure if there is one made for the CF
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [JTNY] [ In reply to ]
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There is not for the CF. Being a standard 31.8 basebar (or a 22.2 extension), there are too many good computer bracket builders (K-Edge, RecMounts, BarFly, Zipp and Garmin typically provides their own with computers, etc.) for us to produce one.

Jay Prasuhn
Marketing Specialist, American Bicycle Group (Quintana Roo//Litespeed//Obed)
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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How or where do you guys buy adaptors for you speedmax cockpit? Does the bike come with a set of different angles and stuff?

Thanks!!
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Re: Official Canyon Speedmax CF Owners Thread [JTNY] [ In reply to ]
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Morning,

I've just purchased a Speedmax CF and am wondering if anyone else's nutrition box sticks out and if so what adjustments were made to get it back behind the saddle post? Due to the 3 wires coming up through, mine bulges out the sides which obviously wont be great in an aero race.

Thanks
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [CanyonJay] [ In reply to ]
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Any insight as to when the Speedmax WMN CF 8.0 LTD will be available in XS in the US? It's showing available on the European site.
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [Mdiaz] [ In reply to ]
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If you're looking for Speedmax SLX adaptors, at the moment the best way to get them is to call in; we haven't yet updated the website with many small parts, so whether it's rear bottle brackets (which we had a limited supply of at last check a few weeks ago), angle wedges, switch plates, etc., it's best to call 833.226.9661 and ask for the pieces you are seeking. The bike comes with spacers in 5mm increments that can stack up to 80mm high.

Jay Prasuhn
Marketing Specialist, American Bicycle Group (Quintana Roo//Litespeed//Obed)
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Re: Is there a Canyon owners thread? [tri3ba] [ In reply to ]
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We're scheduled to have a limited number (five) models hit the website the last week of this month... in just under two weeks. Check then, but be sure to sign up for email notification, and you'll get an email when the XS is live and in stock on the site!

Jay Prasuhn
Marketing Specialist, American Bicycle Group (Quintana Roo//Litespeed//Obed)
twitter.com/jayprasuhn

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