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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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dkennison wrote:
Thank you. I have to be in New York but there should be three or four Tactical's at Madison.

Trying to upload some images of the tilt and round option extension tubes but not having any luck.

Hey Dan, Let me know if there's anything specific you'd like. I'd be happy to get what you need if any of the owners are able to make themselves available. As a longtime pro, I am able to get some outstanding images with exceptional hi resolution.
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Re: Premier Tactical [ggeiger] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you. It would be great to get some action shots.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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dkennison wrote:
Thank you. It would be great to get some action shots.

Will do!

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Re: Premier Tactical [JTolandTRI] [ In reply to ]
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Jack can not down load pictures site to difficult will keep trying or can email them to you. Flair bracket attached to an L bracket attached to seatpost slot with a wing nut bolt. Had to modify the flair light bracket a little bit. Dan created a place to hang the flair light or race number plaque and did not know it
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Re: Premier Tactical [JTolandTRI] [ In reply to ]
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here are pictures
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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks! Looks like a clean setup. I was going to attempt to 3D print an aero seat post bracket like Trek makes, but this looks far simpler.
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Re: Premier Tactical [JTolandTRI] [ In reply to ]
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JTolandTRI wrote:
I managed to grab a few pictures of the brakes this morning. I've set a reminder to grab a few more with the stem cover removed.
Thanks!

BMANX wrote:
The brakes look a lot like the TriRig brakes?????
That was my initial thought as well.
Actually, I see TR in the BBar as well. OTH, TR's BTA mount is Boss!

JTolandTRI wrote:
Tilt and round extension photos below:
Thanks!

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The Tactical offers a lot for the money. It would, however, be nice to see the website improved with specs and photos, and all the possible options/configurations.

/Howie Nordström
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Re: Premier Tactical [georged] [ In reply to ]
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It looks like Dan has started to prepare for order number 2:

- The Tactical 2.0 is up $650 from the initial go around. Dan has added a few improvements from the 1.0: ceramic pulleys, ceramic bottom bracket, a tilt kit, and improved grips on the extensions and bullhorns. Still a very good deal for what may be the third fastest bike on the market.

- The Arrow 1.0 for $4760 which looks like a good option for those that already have race wheels and a powermeter they like. As Dan mentioned in an earlier post, its the same frameset as the tactical. The differences are 50mm wheels (instead of the 88mm+disc), and powermeter no race tires, optimized chain, or hard case. I'm guessing it won't have the ceramic pulleys and bottom bracket but that it will have the tilt kit and improved grips of the Tactical 2.0. Will let Dan chime in on this. Also, it mentions no Di2 basebar shifting. Would riders be able to add this later (I'm assuming by buying the Shimano ST-6871) by themselves?

- The frameset is about $400 less expensive than before. The pictures show the new logo's/decals which are an improvement imho. A single color and they are more visible/easier to read. Red, blue, or white. I'm guessing these same decals are on the complete builds as well?

Per the site the plan is to ship in December. Great job continuing to refine your bike/company Dan!

Matt
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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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Cool race number holder.

Where did you buy it?
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Re: Premier Tactical [Pun_Times] [ In reply to ]
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Pun_Times - thank you for the write-up. It's accurate and spot on.

We are updating the images for the Tactical and Arrow.

The Arrow is a bike that can be 100% upgraded to the Tactical specification. We just wanted to offer a lower price point for those that already have duplicate components or want to upgrade later.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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dkennison wrote:
I had developed a great aero hydration/computer mount system a while back. The mold cost was 45K so I decided to wait. We then tested most of the products on the market. The Profile Design FC35 was the fastest in its low position. Then PD changed the velcro attachment straps to fixed hard plastic and that made the system not work well (thats why I took that product off the website), the next fastest system is a simple BTA like Xlab which also has the computer mount and velcro straps that attach to the extension tubes. Those straps and that system also makes the whole front end nice and secure if you use a lot of spacers.


Dan, could you provide some details on what made the PD not work well (with/on the Tactical) after they changed from velcro to fixed hard plastic?

Thx, S.
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Re: Premier Tactical [stephanl] [ In reply to ]
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Yes - thank you.

The original PD-FC35 used a velcro attachment method for the extension tubes. Our tubes are oversized. Velcro fit fine.

If you used their extenders (width) that system fit perfectly and was very fast. If you mounted the bracket up-side-down (please see Jim Manton write up ERO Sports) you could set the hydration low (even more aero)

PD changed the attachment clamps to a hard plastic. These are molded to fit on round tubes so now they don't work as well.

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Dan, I will be purchasing a new frameset before the 2018 season, currently researching the PRsix, SC, and the Tactical. How do I get your bike into Canada? Do you have Canadian shipping logistics on the road map anywhere? Thanks!
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Re: Premier Tactical [aavlee] [ In reply to ]
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Yes - we have shipped a few bikes to Canada. We use Fed X ground. We can prepare all the paperwork for you. When you decide to purchase just contact us and we can go over all the details.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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That's great to hear. Does wherever the front di2 junction box is hiding also have enough room to fit the eTap blipbox?
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Re: Premier Tactical [aavlee] [ In reply to ]
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We put the A Junction in the BB cover. There is a cavity specifically made for it.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry, I wasn't super clear, I have a SRAM eTap groupset on my current bike that I would move over. The blipbox (junction box equivalent) is larger so I am wondering if it fits in the same cavity. I can measure mine if that helps. Thanks!
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Re: Premier Tactical [aavlee] [ In reply to ]
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Yes - sorry I guess I was not very clear either. The cavity is 55 mm deep X 25 mm wide X 35 mm.

The inner shape is sloped so there is a little more room than a simple rectangle.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Okay, unfortunately that's not going to fit but that pretty much goes for most bikes. Are there any holes in the cavity to route the cables through the inside of the extension/base bar, to the cavity, to the exterior? Here are 2 examples from other bikes:

http://cdn.triathlete.com/...16/10/LC-Trek-03.jpg
http://www.slowtwitch.com/...etap_junctionbox.jpg

Right now on my P2 I have the blip box mounted underneath my standard BTA bottle cage so as long as there is someway to get the cables to the exterior of the bike I should be able to find someplace (relatively) out of the wind.

I've attached the blip box dimensions too.

Thanks!
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Re: Premier Tactical [aavlee] [ In reply to ]
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I think it will fit in the BB cover. There is additional space in the frame itself above the cover. I will print a sample based on the dimensions you provided and see how it fits. Give me a few days and I will let you know for sure.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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dkennison wrote:
I think it will fit in the BB cover. There is additional space in the frame itself above the cover. I will print a sample based on the dimensions you provided and see how it fits. Give me a few days and I will let you know for sure.

That sounds awesome, thanks for taking a closer look. Looking forward to hearing from you.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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dkennison wrote:
I think it will fit in the BB cover. There is additional space in the frame itself above the cover. I will print a sample based on the dimensions you provided and see how it fits. Give me a few days and I will let you know for sure.

I dont have one and am not in the market anytime soon, but when I am, this bike/company will be tops on my list because of things like this.

This kind of customer service says a lot about him as a person and the image he is portraying as a company, not often will a company say "Hey, I dont know if what you have will fit or not, but I will make a part the same size to the specs you gave and see if it fits, just give me a few days"
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